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Wilkinson tells us they 'passed as man and wife'. Passed, not lived, which suggests to me they they may well have presented themselves as Mr and Mrs Kelly in a situation where it was unlikely that anyone would contradict them - when they were hopping for instance. That is certainly speculation, but is hardly 'wild'. It's what unmarried cohabiting couples often did at the time.

It seems Kate may well have pretended to be Conway's wife. And why would that have been? An attempt to cling to a shred of respectability I'd imagine. The same reason she might have for passing herself off as Mrs Kelly.

I'm not sure if you've seen the list of names used by/attributed to Alice McKenzie:

Anderson
Baxter
Bryant
Kell
Kelly
Kelley
Kinsey
Mackenzie
McCormack
McKensey
McKenzie
M'Kenzie
Murrell
Pits
Pitts
Riley
Taylor

I've cheated by adding McCormack because I've never seen that name used for her in print, but I'm pretty sure that there will have been people who knew her only as Alice, the 'wife' of John McCormack.
This may also be of interest. It's from the habitual criminals register (can't remember the date off the top of my head) and it shows how common the use of the name 'Kelly' was as an alias:


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Has anybody mentioned Kitty Ronan? https://www.casebook.org/dissertations/rip-kit.html
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Has anybody mentioned Kitty Ronan? https://www.casebook.org/dissertations/rip-kit.html
Very interesting. If JtR he did away with his blade long ago then and dropped his new one.
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Yarmouth letter giving a Dorset Street address for Jack as 14 Dorset St., before Mary Kelly was murdered, published on 2nd November 1888. https://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=15280

I mentioned this in the OP.
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Does anyone know anything about Thomas Kelly born 1856 Spitalfields who was living with his wife Ann born 1852 in Ireland in 13 Millers Court in 1891?
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Yarmouth letter giving a Dorset Street address for Jack as 14 Dorset St., before Mary Kelly was murdered, published on 2nd November 1888. https://www.jtrforums.com/showthread.php?t=15280

I mentioned this in the OP.

You no doubt know this, but the Morning Post of 10 November lists Caroline Maxwell at No. 14 Dorset. This letter is one of the many oddities of which this case is replete.
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i have always found the letter from Yarmouth giving 14, Dorset street as very interesting,
An amazing coincidence. or was it?
Interesting that in the 1891 census we have a young person called Smith originating from Yarmouth,living at that address ,
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One of four unemployed ladies aged 17,21,22 and 35 sharing a room diagonally across the road from Miller's Court.
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