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Old 10-11-2009, 01:29 AM
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I agree re-accuracy, but shouldn't this all be published with the examiner's report?
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It would also be nice if Davies' report could be published...
Absolutely. A number of us have seen copies of the report, and I have been trying for months to get permission for it to be published here so that everyone can seen the evidence.

Unfortunately, it seems that permission isn't going to be forthcoming. If it had been, I think it would have been possible to get away from the endless diversionary arguments about the authenticity of the marginalia, and on to a more sensible discussion of their significance. But there it is.
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It would be interesting to see if this is a policy decision by the Met, perhaps a letter to the Commissioner would not go amiss.
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Sorry for backtracking a bit, but I wish to comment on the statements made by some here that signing some of the marginalia was an "odd" practice...

Actually, it's not odd at all, among engineers and scientists. My husband who is an engineer and has numerous patents in the industry he works in almost always carries some type of "ideas notebook" with him...He does, in fact sign/initial and date statments and/or drawings that he feels will have later significance or are "patentable"...

Why wouldn't it follow that someone like Swanson would do exactly the same thing with items he thought had potential "case breaking" significance??
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Sorry for backtracking a bit, but I wish to comment on the statements made by some here that signing some of the marginalia was an "odd" practice...
Actually, it's not odd at all, among engineers and scientists. My husband who is an engineer and has numerous patents in the industry he works in almost always carries some type of "ideas notebook" with him...He does, in fact sign/initial and date statments and/or drawings that he feels will have later significance or are "patentable"...
Why wouldn't it follow that someone like Swanson would do exactly the same thing with items he thought had potential "case breaking" significance??
Which was Swanson, an engineer or a scientist? Sorry, only joking.

I wouldn't say that signing, or initialling, annotations in a book was common, but it certainly wasn't unknown nor was it odd. I have an old Scotland Yard detective's memoirs that belonged to a pathologist involved in one of the cases. He has annotated the rear free endpaper and pastedown with case notes, but has not signed or initialled them. Swanson obviously felt his significant enough to initial.

The book was obviously Donald Swanson's as he had written his name and address on the front pastedown sheet, ergo any annotations in the book may reasonably be expected to be his. The book would be presumed to be remaining in the family and publication of the annotations would, I presume, not be expected by Swanson.
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Stewart,

Do you recall what Swanson used (pen, pencil?) to write his name and address on the front pastedown sheet?
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Do you recall what Swanson used (pen, pencil?) to write his name and address on the front pastedown sheet?
Scott, yes it was a pencil, looks like the one with the purplish tinge. And here it is -

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...my only point being that he Swanson would do this for the same reason a technical inventor would....so that, in the event of his death and the case was reopened, he would get proper historical "credit" for his "discoveries"...
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Wow, bitter much; I was simply using a familiar example. Perhaps your attitude is one of the reasons you are not married or in a long-term relationship are not allowed to have custody of, nor spend much time with your own child.

Knock off the adolescent behavior, and your quality of life will vastly improve, I can assure you.

How is any of this about my daughter's friends???....Lay off the alcohol too; that may help you significantly as well.
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I base my observations on the photographs supplied by SPE.

It appears to me that DSS underlined the text in question and then wrote his comment in the margin. If this is correct it would give:

identified the suspect the instant he was confronted with him

& after this identification which suspect knew, no other murder of this kind took place in London.

The comments at the bottom of page 138 appear to be a continuation of Anderson's writing explaining why the witness refused to give evidence, here he (Swanson) runs out of room and continues his thoughts on the end paper.
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