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Old 03-12-2017, 03:08 AM
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An impossible ask, but what if the body of Keith Bennett could be found!
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Old 03-12-2017, 06:56 AM
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Not that I'm aware of, I'm merely passing comment.

This is based upon the fact Leicester University were recently involved in DNA forensic work on the Rouse case, when they dismissed a family member as the unknown victim.

The RIII work the uni has done opens up a long list of possibilities, from Bible John to the Zodiac to Lord Lucan (should any DNA evidence turn up)

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Has anyone thought to ask Alan Parsons if there may be any copyright infringement?
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"Members of the University of Leicester team who undertook genealogical and demographic research in relation to the discovery of the mortal remains of King Richard III have now been involved in a new project to identify the last known victim of Jack the Ripper—Mary Jane Kelly.

The researchers were commissioned by author Patricia Cornwell, renowned for her meticulous research, to examine the feasibility of finding the exact burial location and the likely condition and survival of her remains. This was done as a precursor to possible DNA analysis in a case surrounding her true identity following contact with Wynne Weston-Davies who believes that Mary Jane Kelly was actually his great aunt, Elizabeth Weston Davies."

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University of Leicester's Press Release
http://www2.le.ac.uk/offices/press/f...ary-jane-kelly

PDF of the full 27 page report
http://www2.le.ac.uk/departments/gen...ectFeb2017.pdf

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I knew this would happen mr wynne weston davis now has a get out jail free card "I want to prove this but they wont let me"
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Not exactly pertinent to The Kelly question,but here in Adelaide,South Australia,an attempt is being made to exhume "The Somerton Man" with a view to extract DNA samples,and a possible identification.So far permission has been refused.
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Not exactly pertinent to The Kelly question,but here in Adelaide,South Australia,an attempt is being made to exhume "The Somerton Man" with a view to extract DNA samples,and a possible identification.So far permission has been refused.
Yeah I think unless they come up with a suggestion as to what (who?) they hope to match to permission will continue to be denied.
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An impossible ask, but what if the body of Keith Bennett could be found!
Or maybe that missing champion race horse from the 1980s.
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The report makes fascinating reading, and will probably take a few readings to digest.

So... no conclusive evidence that MJK and Elizabeth Weston Davies are the same person any evidence is just circumstantial or conjecture.

And... The possibility of finding MJK's grave or remains are very, very unlikely...if any remains exist.

So there won't be any digging...good!

Let's concentrate on finding her in life...and let her rest in peace in death.
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I know I'm probably in the minority, but I'm terribly sad about this news.

I think that DNA and isotope testing was probably the last opportunity to get any scientific validation of who Mary actually was in life - although the work that has been done by genuine researchers so far has been incredible, there is the very real possibility that her entire back story was completely made up. If that is the case, the closest we will ever come to knowing who she was is by skull reconstruction and isotope analysis.

I realise that this is probably a bit over sentimental to a lot of people, but it would have been nice to think that when people Google 'Mary Jane Kelly' in the future, the highest result in the search rankings would be a scientific reconstruction of her undamaged face, rather than what was left of her after her killer had finished with her.

I always thought that she was laid to rest in a coffin with a brass name plate on it - I haven't had a chance to read the whole report yet, I'm assuming that they do not think that this has survived?
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And the point to this is ........ .😁
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