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  • The black and white photo shows the successor building in Portland Road, opened in 1892. This thread on the old boards has photos of both buildings taken by John Ruffels in 2005:

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    • OK, thanks Chris. So if I understand correctly, the Clarendon Villas address was a temporary address for the Police Convalescent Home... in other words, a rented building, but 11 Portland Rd was the permanent address of the Seaside Home, built expressly for the purpose. Is that about right?

      RH

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      • Hi Rob

        Thats very odd because the photo of the home I used for Stewart's Lecture, supplied by Andy Aliffe is different to both of these pictures?

        More like the second but with a pointed tower in the centre.

        If you PM me your email I will send a copy. I dont think i should post it on casebook without permission.

        Yours Jeff

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        • Hi All,

          The following is from the 1893 Chicago Convention of the World's Woman's Christian Temperance Union—

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          Simon
          Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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          • Originally posted by Limehouse View Post
            Looking at them, I would say they are different buildings.
            Hadn't we better get Sir Richard Rogers or Zaha Hadid in to give us their expert opinion, rather than trust our untrained eyes?
            Kind regards, Sam Flynn

            "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

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            • This is the Police Seaside Home at 51 Clarendon Villas, as it looked in 1890:

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              And how it looked in 2005.
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              And this is the Bethnal Green Watch House built in 1826 (photo c1890)
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              And how it looked yesterday
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              Rob

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              • You should do one of them "Then and Now" books Rob!

                The Watch house looks amazing especially the brick work surrounding the windows!
                Regards Mike

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                • Hi Rob,

                  Thanks for posting the 1890 Clarendon Villas photograph. It's amazing. Where on earth did you find it?

                  Regards,

                  Simon
                  Never believe anything until it has been officially denied.

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                  • Originally posted by Mike Covell View Post
                    You should do one of them "Then and Now" books Rob!
                    I know Philip's done one, so I might as well do one myself .

                    Originally posted by Simon Wood View Post
                    Hi Rob,

                    Thanks for posting the 1890 Clarendon Villas photograph. It's amazing. Where on earth did you find it?

                    Regards,

                    Simon
                    It was published in a monthly Journal called 'On and Off Duty'. It was the July1890 edition.

                    Rob

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                    • So THAT'S what the bleedin' writing said on the watchman's building - I hope Liza and Caz are reading this.

                      I think the modern one would've looked better with four black bin bags filled with garden waste by the front door meself.

                      Did you have an old copy with you yesterday (didn't see it and presume you would've brought it out when we were trying to read the writing) or was it just coincidence you got the angles pretty much spot-on?

                      PHILIP
                      Tour guides do it loudly in front of a crowd.

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                      • Originally posted by George Hutchinson View Post
                        Did you have an old copy with you yesterday (didn't see it and presume you would've brought it out when we were trying to read the writing) or was it just coincidence you got the angles pretty much spot-on?

                        PHILIP
                        I didn't bring the copy with me, it's from a book on old Bethnal Green photos. I knew roughly from where the photo was taken. Pretty good guess on my part

                        Rob

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                        • Rob,

                          Pretty good guess on my part
                          Sticking with your tried and tested means of research?

                          Monty
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                          • Originally posted by Monty View Post
                            Rob,

                            Sticking with your tried and tested means of research?

                            Monty
                            Doesn't let me down to often.


                            Here's Duval Street 1904. It's not great but better than nothing. It's a similar photo as the one that was in The Penny Illustrated Paper from the same year.

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                            Rob

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                            • Nice find, Rob.

                              Funnily enough, I saw some bloke looking at the same thing in the LMA last week, but it looks like you got there first.

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                              • Originally posted by John Bennett View Post
                                Nice find, Rob.

                                Funnily enough, I saw some bloke looking at the same thing in the LMA last week, but it looks like you got there first.
                                Good looking bloke was he?

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