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Old 11-16-2018, 06:41 AM
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Default Ripper was several people...

Acting as one.

We know this from the death of Stride. One man doing the deed the other watching out for people seeing them. Isn't it odd that this murder was the most tricky being so close to a club where people were coming and going. And it just so happens that the ripper had an accomplice that night(and maybe every night)

This was not one lunatic. It was a group of people doing this for a purpose other than simply killing women.
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Old 11-16-2018, 06:47 AM
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There are pros and cons for this model, but it should be discussed.

First of all, there are people who don't think the C5 are the same hand and may even claim there are five murderers. Personally, I think such ideas preposterous for various reasons, but mostly because serial lust murders exist like JtR and it's one person, not many.

Now your model has a lookout. That's different. It still has one hand being JtR and someone watching out.

There is sometimes evidence of maybe not just one but two people being involved in these murders. Two soldiers with Tabram. Two men were seen by Schwartz. I am sure others here can fit in more times two people seem to crop up.

However, there is more evidence for one single person with the victims according to witnesses.

The question is if a lookout is absolutely necessary. I think a lookout is not absolutely necessary if JtR knew something about police beats and through experimentation understood his crime constraints.
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There is sometimes evidence of maybe not just one but two people being involved in these murders. Two soldiers with Tabram. Two men were seen by Schwartz. I am sure others here can fit in more times two people seem to crop up.
Cross and Paul?
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Cross and Paul?
Why not just fling a rippernade into the thread yeah Caz!
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Cross and Paul?
Given that Schwartz was a Stride witness, perhaps we're talking about Cross and Blackwell. If only we had a first-hand contemporary sauce...
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Given that Schwartz was a Stride witness, perhaps we're talking about Cross and Blackwell. If only we had a first-hand contemporary sauce...
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Burgho and Barnaby?

To be found in the hot dog zone.
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Burgho and Barnaby?

To be found in the hot dog zone.
LOL. now that was funny.

no offence to Albie or Jerry Dunlop. but ive never gone for the more than one man idea and or conspiracy. but at least Jerry does excellent research and backs up his theory with facts and knowledge and good analysis. hes the one that's sometimes got me thinking... just maybe.
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Barnett And Williams: available for pantomimes, Bar Mitzvah’s And children’s parties.
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Having re-read the Schwartz statement with the twin killer view point, one idea springs to mind. Were the killers acting as a duo, one scares/threatens/attacks, the second is a knight in shining armour who comes to the rescue. This would explain the apparent trust by the victims up until MJK but would require London having effectively three serial killers active at the same time, admittedly two acting in unison (yes I know about Fisherman's Torso-Ripper theory, which might even be explained by a double act scenario).

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