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"The Goulston Street Graffito which patently contains cryptic references to all six significant adults in Maybrick's family."

Sorry, but that is a stretch and then some. It reminds me of the "Bible Code." Simply rearrange letters over and over until you get something which you think is significant. There are simply no references there to Maybrick's family any more than it cryptically translates "for a good time call Queen Victoria."

And finally ask yourself if in fact Maybrick was the author of the GSG why would he take the chance to write a message that only he and he alone knew what it meant. That just doesn't make a lot of sense.

I think you are barking up the wrong tree on this one.

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Unfortunately that applies to a lot of things on Casebook.
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"The Goulston Street Graffito which patently contains cryptic references to all six significant adults in Maybrick's family."

Sorry, but that is a stretch and then some. It reminds me of the "Bible Code." Simply rearrange letters over and over until you get something which you think is significant. There are simply no references there to Maybrick's family any more than it cryptically translates "for a good time call Queen Victoria."

And finally ask yourself if in fact Maybrick was the author of the GSG why would he take the chance to write a message that only he and he alone knew what it meant. That just doesn't make a lot of sense.

I think you are barking up the wrong tree on this one.

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You’re making the mistake of taking Ike seriously. He doesn’t believe Maybrick was Jack anymore than you do. He just loves to troll anti-diarists with his shenanigans.
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"The Goulston Street Graffito which patently contains cryptic references to all six significant adults in Maybrick's family."

Sorry, but that is a stretch and then some. It reminds me of the "Bible Code." Simply rearrange letters over and over until you get something which you think is significant. There are simply no references there to Maybrick's family any more than it cryptically translates "for a good time call Queen Victoria."

And finally ask yourself if in fact Maybrick was the author of the GSG why would he take the chance to write a message that only he and he alone knew what it meant. That just doesn't make a lot of sense.

I think you are barking up the wrong tree on this one.

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Well if someone is simply rearranging letters over and over then that person quite rightly needs to be ignored. We can all do that and it is quite pointless. You and I are in absolute agreement there c.d.. But I don't understand why you have said this in response to my post? I have not rearranged letters. I have highlighted the rather obvious fact that - by coincidence or by design - 'Juwes' could pass for 'James', 'The men' could pass for 'Thomas', 'Will' and 'lam' lie together in the text and form 'William', 'ed' forms 'Ed' (and 'for nothing' could be seen as a 'win'). I've added that 'Will' turned upside down forms 'MM', and that 'B' in 'Blamed' is actually far more like 'fM' than a 'B'. I'm not swapping letters around. I'm not saying that you can extract 'James Maybrick' from individual letters in the GSG. I'm not saying anything like that. I accept that for many people, my interpretation will be a 'stretch' of the imagination, but does that reflect the excesses of the stretch or the limits of the imagination?

I can't believe that you are on a serial murder website and you - apparently sincerely - ask why a murderer would want to leave cryptic clues for the police to excite himself over without feeling he is going to be exposed by it. Are you unaware that that is what serial killers have done in other cases?

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You’re making the mistake of taking Ike seriously. He doesn’t believe Maybrick was Jack anymore than you do. He just loves to troll anti-diarists with his shenanigans.
Just to be absolutely clear, having a differing view to your own does not make someone a troll. If that were true, then you too would be a troll. Ipso facto and all that. It is entirely up to you whether or not you take my comments seriously, but it is not for you to decide that my comments are of less value because you disagree with them.
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Just to be absolutely clear, having a differing view to your own does not make someone a troll. If that were true, then you too would be a troll. Ipso facto and all that. It is entirely up to you whether or not you take my comments seriously, but it is not for you to decide that my comments are of less value because you disagree with them.
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Careful, son. As I understand it, Admin issues infractions for people-who-attack-the-person-not-the-post.
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Did you just threaten to tell teacher?

The content and tone of your posts suggest troll/WUM. Better?
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Had to google what WUM even meant.
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Did you just threaten to tell teacher?

The content and tone of your posts suggest troll/WUM. Better?
I have never once dobbed anyone in. I'm not that spineless. I wouldn't ask anyone else to fight my battles regardless of the size of the army before me. I think I've shown that over the years.

"The content and tone of your posts suggest troll/WUM" is fine with me - it is your opinion that I might be trolling, and I have no problem with that. The difference comes when you start making outlandish, disparaging comments that I am trolling. You move from supposition to statement and you have no grounds other than probably antagonism to do so and that's when you cross the line. You also compromise the posts of pretty much the journal's only pro-voice on this Casebook, and you are better than that so it's disappointing to see it.
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Hi harry
I don’t think icon is trolling. Seems like he sincerely believes maybrick wrote the diary and is the ripper.

I think you may be thrown off by his flamboyant and passionate style.
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