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Old 12-29-2016, 04:10 AM
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Prom Perror, I've known a lot of Historiansover the years, statistics isn't usually in their training, so the great historian is now also great statistician, his number of degrees is amazing, even someone with a degree that uses statistics as one of their tools would consult an expert is stats on something this complex.
Yes, GUT. I happen to like the university. And I have a few degrees as a result of this.
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I am struggling with a small set of very, very difficult sources at the moment. I am almost giving up this research.

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I am struggling with a small set of very, very difficult sources at the moment. I am almost giving up this research.

What the past has left to us may indicate that the reason for erasing the writing was not Jews but Judges.

I am trying to understand if someone knew who Jack the Ripper was a bit earlier than I thought.

I am trying to understand the double event in the perspective of Lawende not being able to give his testimony at the inquest and the talk about "Jews" in connection to the writing as a talk constructed to hide "Judges".

It is just a test.

The problem of conspiracy is that it allows for too much interpretation. Therefore I am very reluctant to think along these lines right now.

What I do know is that in 1888 they had sources we do not have. I am trying to understand what this means for the sources I have found.

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It's a test which involves allowing for extreme possibilities in order to lend support for a weak theory.
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Old 12-29-2016, 05:48 AM
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Still banging that drum. Pierre, nobody who has read your "Lawende was silenced" thread came away from it thinking Lawende had been silenced.

Remember that time you claimed YOU had been silenced? That was another error on your part.

It seems to be a speciality of yours.
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The problem of conspiracy is that it allows for too much interpretation. Therefore I am very reluctant to think along these lines right now.
How things change. It was only little over a year ago, on 3 December 2015, that Pierre was telling us:

"I would also like to point out that my theory is not outlandish or far-fetched. It is simple and down to earth. It has nothing to do with free masons or politics."

Then, of course, it turned into a grand conspiracy (as Pierre now admits) involving two Chief Commissioners of Police, a number of senior detectives at Scotland Yard and the city solicitor, as well as who knows how many others.

Not "simple and down to earth" at all. No wonder is Pierre is troubled.
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It's a test which involves allowing for extreme possibilities in order to lend support for a weak theory.
The problem is that what you call "extreme possibilities" are small and simple things.
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Promises, promises, promises.
BS BS BS.
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I am trying to understand the double event in the perspective of Lawende not being able to give his testimony at the inquest and the talk about "Jews" in connection to the writing as a talk constructed to hide "Judges".
Looks like Pierre's changed his mind again. Previously he told us Jack the Ripper was a police officer, now he must have been a sailor, given the importance he places on Lawende's testimony.
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BS BS BS.
Some of us realized that over a year ago.
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The problem of conspiracy is that it allows for too much interpretation. Therefore I am very reluctant to think along these lines right now.
I think what you mean is, the problem with suggesting conspiracy where there was none is that too much "interpretation" becomes absolutely essential.

But don't worry, your reluctance to indulge in conspiracy theory Is immediately obvious to everyone here.
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