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Old 06-12-2018, 11:36 AM
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Default Caroline Maxwell Alibi ?

This is just a theory but I am wondering if Caroline Maxwell was covering up for her husband in some way. She says in her statement that she had been helping her husband all night. Is it too much of a stretch of the imagination to suggest he was, or she was paid a shilling say, by John Mcarthy to keep an eye out on the court, [one possible explanation is he could have been worried about Mary doing a moonlight flit with the money she owed knowing he would be asking for it next day]. We know that he worked at Crossingham's across the road that night as the deputy lodging keeper. We also know that Sarah Lewis saw someone standing outside the lodging house looking up the court. Could this have been Henry keeping an eye out whilst he had a chance? And in her statement it says, crossed out, talking to a female, could this have been Caroline with Henry? If he failed in his duty to keep an eye out on the court as such and didn't want the wrath of Mcarthy, maybe they rented the property off him where they lived? Perhaps Caroline felt obliged to give Henry, or herself some form of Alibi by inventing the later sighting?

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Old 06-12-2018, 11:59 AM
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But Maxwell was not alone in her claim.
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As far as I am aware I thought there was just Maurice Lewis and an unnamed woman in The Times, who perhaps was Caroline Maxwell who thought they saw MJK early morning? Certainly, there was only Caroline at the inquest who left herself open to being cross-examined. An important point in my opinion.
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As far as I am aware I thought there was just Maurice Lewis and an unnamed woman in The Times, who perhaps was Caroline Maxwell who thought they saw MJK early morning? Certainly, there was only Caroline at the inquest who left herself open to being cross-examined. An important point in my opinion.
Well , that's three .How many said that they saw her the night before when there was no argument she was alive ?
Just two .... and one of them was Maurice Lewis himself
We don't know why only Maxwell was called for sure but the smart money would be on the fact that had there been more than one at the inquest saying they saw her the next morning then TOD would have been fixed at after 9 and created a chaotic situation in the shortest of short inquest .

There are no grounds whatsoever for disbelieving Maxwell or Lewis
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Hi,
Whilst we are at it.
The letter penned from Maxwell's address to the Yarmouth police, claiming another murder would happen one week from then.
What are the odds that a letter claiming another Ripper murder, would take place, would have been sent from the witness Maxwell's address, which happens to be exactly opposite the murder scene.?
A witness that gave information , which had a bearing on the investigation, surely the word coincidence cannot apply?
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Hi,
Whilst we are at it.
The letter penned from Maxwell's address to the Yarmouth police, claiming another murder would happen one week from then.
What are the odds that a letter claiming another Ripper murder, would take place, would have been sent from the witness Maxwell's address, which happens to be exactly opposite the murder scene.?
A witness that gave information , which had a bearing on the investigation, surely the word coincidence cannot apply?
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What was the date and the address on the letter please Richard ?
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What is worth bearing in mind is that nobody writing a JTR letter would give their real address .
If putting any address down at all it would be gleaned from newspapers almost certainly
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Entirely subjective, but I can't see the Ripper killing that late in the morning. While you could argue that he replaced the cover of night with the inside of Miller's Court, it was riskier to kill at a time when there was an increased chance of someone comin' a knockin' for MJK.
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Post 4 Thread 'Was Millers court being watched by the police.'
Just suppose the London police had knowledge of the 14, Dorset street letter sent to the Yarmouth police a week previous.
It could then be conceivable that the address it was sent from , being directly opposite Millers court , might trigger alarm bells , especially if they had figured out the killers pattern of dates.
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Entirely subjective, but I can't see the Ripper killing that late in the morning. While you could argue that he replaced the cover of night with the inside of Miller's Court, it was riskier to kill at a time when there was an increased chance of someone comin' a knockin' for MJK.
agree. the ripper was a night stalker.

Plus times too tight for Maxwell and m. Lewis to have been correct IMHO.

Then there is the question of the large fire and burnt clothes and kettle, undoubtedly stoked up by the killer at night.
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