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Old 06-03-2018, 07:29 AM
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Hi,
Author Stephen Senise, has recently fuelled interest in the witness George Hutchinson . It was very much debated around 2009, and not a lot since.
Have any of you got strong opinions on who this witness was, and his involvement in the case.?
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Old 06-03-2018, 08:26 AM
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Hutchinson is nothing more than a statement and a police press release , not a sworn witness .
At least the others of importance that never made the stand have press interviews .... Schwartz. ..packer
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Hutchinson is a horse that has been beaten to death, reincarnated and then beaten to death again. My personal view is that the more suspicion falls upon Hutch for his behavior then the greater the stupidity level rises for the police for failing to see it (if that was the case). Since I don't think they were complete and total idiots, I think they investigated him as best they could. "As best they could" being the key phrase here. Is it possible that he fooled them or that they missed something? Absolutely. But apparently they cleared him and I think that is the best we are going to do with regard to Hutchinson. Take it for what you think it is worth.

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I know Hutchinson has been described as a man of military appearance, but are there any other viable descriptions of him ? IE Height, age etc
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Hutchinson is one of the better witness-cum-suspects.
- He claimed to know the victim (some believe MJK’s overkill suggests intimacy/familiarity)
- He loitered at the crime-scene
- He only came forward after the inquest
- He came up with an overly detailed foreign suspect (racial motive? GSG?)
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I know Hutchinson has been described as a man of military appearance, but are there any other viable descriptions of him ? IE Height, age etc
short, not tall, stout. according to sarah lewis waiting man, corroborated by hutch himself.

age around 23-24? I believe at the time.
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Hutchinson is one of the better witness-cum-suspects.
- He claimed to know the victim (some believe MJK’s overkill suggests intimacy/familiarity)
- He loitered at the crime-scene
- He only came forward after the inquest
- He came up with an overly detailed foreign suspect (racial motive? GSG?)
yup.

his description of a jewish suspect is the only evidence that mentions a jew other than the GSG, and shout of Lipski. possible connection.

he lived around the corner.

he changed his story significantly, the second version, placing himself right outside kellys door, clearly indicating he knew exactly where her home was. something entirely missing from the first statement.

he engaged in stalking behavior with Kelly and has no alibi.
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Hutchinson is a horse that has been beaten to death, reincarnated and then beaten to death again. My personal view is that the more suspicion falls upon Hutch for his behavior then the greater the stupidity level rises for the police for failing to see it (if that was the case). Since I don't think they were complete and total idiots, I think they investigated him as best they could. "As best they could" being the key phrase here. Is it possible that he fooled them or that they missed something? Absolutely. But apparently they cleared him and I think that is the best we are going to do with regard to Hutchinson. Take it for what you think it is worth.

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no the police weren't idiots. Seems Abberline might have initial suspicion of him with his term "interrogated". but came to beleive him almost immediately it seems.

I think the police just didnt have the experience with serial murders, suspects that proactively insert themselves into the case, and investigation in general.

I think in todays world they would take a much larger and prolonged interest in him.

and I take exception to "horse beaten to death" attitude. clearly Stephens excellent research that lead to(the new find) Aussie George isnt beating any dead horses.

more research on viable suspects is always needed and a good thing.
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Hutchinson is nothing more than a statement and a police press release , not a sworn witness .
At least the others of importance that never made the stand have press interviews .... Schwartz. ..packer
I keep seeing you make statements like this. what are you talking about?
he gave the press his story.

and the only reason he isn't a sworn witness is because he conveniently missed the inquest!

but he does have a SIGNED statement to police.
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but he does have a SIGNED statement to police.
... to toppy things off.
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