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View Poll Results: Do you wish to see an independant forensic re-examination of the Swanson Marginalia?
Yes 9 39.13%
No 14 60.87%
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Old 01-29-2011, 11:43 PM
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Thanks Phil, I voted No. The Davies summary is good enough for me.

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Hi Roy have you seen the report in its entirety as what has been released clearly shows the results to be inconclusive.
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Sometimes I think any results of any testing won't be accurate enough for those who already believe one way. I don't believe retesting is necessary.

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Hi Roy have you seen the report in its entirety as what has been released clearly shows the results to be inconclusive.
Saying simply that the results were "inconclusive" doesn't really give the full picture, though. Although he acknowledged that his findings did not show unequivocally that Swanson was the author, Davies was able to conclude that "there is strong evidence to support the proposition that Swanson wrote the questioned annotations." On a scale of 1 to 9, he rated the annotations at 7.
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Saying simply that the results were "inconclusive" doesn't really give the full picture, though. Although he acknowledged that his findings did not show unequivocally that Swanson was the author, Davies was able to conclude that "there is strong evidence to support the proposition that Swanson wrote the questioned annotations." On a scale of 1 to 9, he rated the annotations at 7.
Strong evidence to support is not conclusive.It still leaves a reasonable doubt. Until that doubt is removed there will still be grave concerns.
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Interesting. 33% more people, literally hordes, seem to think it isn't worthwhile to re-examine the Marginalia.

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Interesting. 33% more people, literally hordes, seem to think it isn't worthwhile to re-examine the Marginalia.

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I vote yes.I believe there are and have been, people clever enough to alter a document without being detected,and that there are persons,equally clever,who can detect that documents have been altered.
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Too general a question and not at all helpful.

There is more to this than a simple question of testing.

Theres the specifics and costs to consider. What tests are to be done and why? What are we trying to establish?

And who is going to pay the considerable costs?


Can we ask those questions too?

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Old 01-31-2011, 04:24 PM
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Hello Neil,

It's easy. Set up a thread, ask a question and wait for the responses leaving it open for all to CHOOSE whether to vote or not. Thats what I did.

As to your critique of just about anything I write, say, do, or attempt... it matters not one jot. You appear to have developed a personal bias. I find that sad, especially from such a well reknowned historical researcher as yourself.

Nothing personal Neil. Just a polite, quietly thought-out opinion.

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