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Old 11-23-2018, 11:50 AM
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Regarding the examination of George "Toppy" Hutchinson's handwriting, and the possibility of the wrong exemplar having been used, Russell Edwards recounts an incident involving the Swanson Marginalia in his book Naming Jack the Ripper.

Back in 1988, a photocopy of the Marginalia was sent to the Home Office, and this was compared to a known sample of Donald Swanson's handwriting by one of the forensic examiners, Dr. Totty. He came to the dramatic conclusion that the two writings were NOT written by the same person.

According to Edwards, this set off alarm bells, but it was eventually concluded that Totty had not been given a genuine, legitimate sample of Swanson's handwriting. An error had been made. Although the signature on the document was indeed Swanson's, and it did originate from his office, the main body of the report had been written by an amanuensis or secretary, so the comparison had been flawed from the beginning. Other exemplars were then re-examined and the Home Office felt that the Marginalia matched Swanson's handwriting. So reports Edwards. Similar deal?
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Old 12-22-2018, 04:08 PM
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Something doesn't add up.

Surprise!

Top cartoon. There is Hutchinson's mother of Jews description. You couldn't get much better than the details in that drawing. A fully fledged out composite of JtR with horseshoe necktie pin and all. Now look to left. There is Hutchinson looking surprised at this ghastly fellow picking up MJK. Now look below that drawing and there is an officer. His name is L.63. His real name still a mystery. Look at the L.63 is saying 'I was on duty all night and never heard a sound'.

So apparently Lambeth 63 wasn't present when Hutchinson's man picked up MJK and didn't see anything (never heard a sound).

L.63 is Hutchinson's corroboration... or at least should be. How is it that Hutchinson who claims to have been there for 45 minutes didn't see this PC on his rounds?

The PC should have seen him twice.
If the illustrations on the newspaper cover depict the people closely in likeness, does this mean the man looking on at Mary Kelly meeting the described suspect is the likeness of George Hutchinson?
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We spoke about PC L 63 last year. Monty identified him, the name escapes me at the moment, but I think he was on duty in Commercial Street, not Dorset Street.
He was identified by David Orsam as Henry Rouse in this thread
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Old 12-23-2018, 01:21 AM
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If the illustrations on the newspaper cover depict the people closely in likeness, does this mean the man looking on at Mary Kelly meeting the described suspect is the likeness of George Hutchinson?
I doubt it. Whilst the illustrations of the better known characters (senior police figures, doctors) might have been, the drawings of Kelly, Mr Astrakhan and "Hutchinson" were quite probably made up.
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If the illustrations on the newspaper cover depict the people closely in likeness, does this mean the man looking on at Mary Kelly meeting the described suspect is the likeness of George Hutchinson?
I agree with Sam's reply, though it must be noted that the date of the IPN sketch was 24 Nov. So an IPN reporter had about 10-12 days to meet Hutchinson and offer a true likeness for a sketch.
That said, the only identifiable detail offered by Sarah Lewis was the wideawake hat, so an IPN reporter has no need to locate Hutchinson, just draw a male wearing a wideawake hat and readers will know who it is supposed to represent.

I wouldn't put a whole lot of faith in either of those three characters being true to life.
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