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Old 02-09-2018, 07:36 AM
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The local newspaper, Le Forum Républicain, noted Vincent had presented himself at a brothel at 11:30 on Sunday night and had asked “for one Rachel and gave her . . . his ear, saying ‘Guard this object carefully’. Then he disappeared.”

Gauguin’s journal: “I heard behind me a well-known step, short, quick, irregular. I turned about on the instant as Vincent rushed toward me, an open razor in his hand. My look at that moment must have had great power in it, for he stopped and, lowering his head, set off running towards home.”

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Just because someone works in a brothel doesn’t make them a prostitute. Men work in brothels. Women can work as cleaners, cooks, madams.

Why didn’t he attack any prostitutes let alone kill or mutilate any?

So Vincent stood in front of Gauguin with a razor in his hand. He must be a serial killer then
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:40 AM
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What does this tell you?

The local newspaper, Le Forum Républicain, noted Vincent had presented himself at a brothel at 11:30 on Sunday night and had asked “for one Rachel and gave her . . . his ear, saying ‘Guard this object carefully’. Then he disappeared.”

Gauguin’s journal: “I heard behind me a well-known step, short, quick, irregular. I turned about on the instant as Vincent rushed toward me, an open razor in his hand. My look at that moment must have had great power in it, for he stopped and, lowering his head, set off running towards home.”

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This old story has been contradicted by more discovered, more detailed documents. If you're not familiar with them then that's rather bad news for you and your book isn't it! I'll say it again:

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Vincent gave his ear to a cleaning girl named Gabrielle. She had been badly bitten by a rabid dog the previous year and worked as a cleaning girl at the brothel to pay off her medical bills. Vincent would've known her, and would've known she was not a prostitute.

Repeat - she was not a prostitute, never, and Vincent would definitely have known that.
Now, you quote a journal entry that describes no attack on Gauguin. And yet you fail to see that this backs up my case and contradicts yours. No attack on Gauguin happened. Vincent ran towards Gauguin, stopped, and skulked off. Vincent was a self harmer. He cut off his ear, he swallowed toxic paint to make himself sick, he shot himself. He didn't attack Gauguin, he would probably have attacked himself, and Gauguin had a vested interest in portraying himself as being in danger.

You back up your 'attack on Gauguin' story by quoting from an entry that describes how Vincent did not attack Gauguin.

Dale, are you stupid?

I'm deleting my account, tired of wasting time on this garbage.
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Old 02-09-2018, 08:47 AM
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"Ripperology has more than its fair share of outlandish theories but yours (along with the Dr Neil Cream lunacy) is the only one as far as I can recall where the suspect wasn’t even in the same country as his victims at the time that they met their deaths!!!"

Well.. you need to add Prince Eddie and H H Holmes to that list

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This old story has been contradicted by more discovered, more detailed documents. If you're not familiar with them then that's rather bad news for you and your book isn't it! I'll say it again:


Now, you quote a journal entry that describes no attack on Gauguin. And yet you fail to see that this backs up my case and contradicts yours. No attack on Gauguin happened. Vincent ran towards Gauguin, stopped, and skulked off. Vincent was a self harmer. He cut off his ear, he swallowed toxic paint to make himself sick, he shot himself. He didn't attack Gauguin, he would probably have attacked himself, and Gauguin had a vested interest in portraying himself as being in danger.

You back up your 'attack on Gauguin' story by quoting from an entry that describes how Vincent did not attack Gauguin.

Dale, are you stupid?

I'm deleting my account, tired of wasting time on this garbage.
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don't go. seriously. theres a lot more people on here that appreciate your input than there are trolls (just ignore them-you can actually put them on "ignore" through your settings)
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Also, I think some misunderstood what I had written, let me again stress that I in no way agree with the theory at all....but I would be willing to read the book and debate the "evidence" as I will do with other outlandish theory's (Royals, Masons, Artists and Cotton Merchants )... not to mention aliens, bigfoot, Cthulhu, Side Show performers, Time Travelers ETC....

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don't go. seriously. theres a lot more people on here that appreciate your input than there are trolls (just ignore them-you can actually put them on "ignore" through your settings)
I second that!!!!!!!!

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don't go. seriously. theres a lot more people on here that appreciate your input than there are trolls (just ignore them-you can actually put them on "ignore" through your settings)
I appreciate that, AN, thank you. However, the truth of the matter is that I've been slowly removing myself from most of my habitual online forums over the past few weeks. They take up far too much of my attention, and time, time that I should be spending at the easel. And honestly, Jack the Ripper isn't as big an interest of mine now as it used to be. I honestly think it might be time to stop hanging around. I appreciate your thoughts though, thank you.
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Thread moved to the 'Pub Talk' section!!!



That puts Dale's 'theory' firmly in its place!! Priceless.
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"Ripperology has more than its fair share of outlandish theories but yours (along with the Dr Neil Cream lunacy) is the only one as far as I can recall where the suspect wasn’t even in the same country as his victims at the time that they met their deaths!!!"

Well.. you need to add Prince Eddie and H H Holmes to that list

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I appreciate that, AN, thank you. However, the truth of the matter is that I've been slowly removing myself from most of my habitual online forums over the past few weeks. They take up far too much of my attention, and time, time that I should be spending at the easel. And honestly, Jack the Ripper isn't as big an interest of mine now as it used to be. I honestly think it might be time to stop hanging around. I appreciate your thoughts though, thank you.
Ok makes sense good luck at the easel!
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