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Old 03-06-2018, 05:22 PM
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Default Would Maybrick Have Wanted The Diary To Be Found?

I rarely venture into diary world and will most likely regret this short intrusion. I never cease to be amazed at how ardently the authenticity of the diary is debated and I can only imagine the frustration that comes with that when it seems that there never will be a definitive answer. So it seems to me that perhaps those who frequent diary world might try to approach things from another direction.

Assuming for the sake of argument (and that really needs to be adhered to) that Maybrick did in fact write the diary, would he have wanted for it to be found and read? To me, the diary is a huge ego trip on his part. Wouldn't he want the world to know who he actually was and to get the last laugh as it were? If so, why not simply hide the diary and make some sort of provision for it to be found after his death? That should have been simple enough.

I have no dog in the fight and the whole authenticity thread seems pointless to me, but why not try some new line of argument because as I see it authenticity has been beaten to death and then some.

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I rarely venture into diary world and will most likely regret this short intrusion. I never cease to be amazed at how ardently the authenticity of the diary is debated and I can only imagine the frustration that comes with that when it seems that there never will be a definitive answer. So it seems to me that perhaps those who frequent diary world might try to approach things from another direction.

Assuming for the sake of argument (and that really needs to be adhered to) that Maybrick did in fact write the diary, would he have wanted for it to be found and read? To me, the diary is a huge ego trip on his part. Wouldn't he want the world to know who he actually was and to get the last laugh as it were? If so, why not simply hide the diary and make some sort of provision for it to be found after his death? That should have been simple enough.

I have no dog in the fight and the whole authenticity thread seems pointless to me, but why not try some new line of argument because as I see it authenticity has been beaten to death and then some.

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The writer of the diary says he wants it to be found.
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Hello Abby,

So he hides it under some floorboards hoping that at some point in the future some electricians will find it? Why not simply take steps to ensure that it happens after his death?

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Hello Abby,

So he hides it under some floorboards hoping that at some point in the future some electricians will find it? Why not simply take steps to ensure that it happens after his death?

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Hi c.d

This point has been raised many times, by many people, and we're still waiting for an adequate answer. Same with the red diary, the phrase "one off", and the phrase "cause mayhem". All we've had is waffle, and wall to wall BS in response.This from both the Maybrick as JTR devotees, and the "old hoax" theorists.
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So he hides it under some floorboards hoping that at some point in the future some electricians will find it? Why not simply take steps to ensure that it happens after his death?

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Exactly.
Just leave it in a drawer.
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Exactly.
Just leave it in a drawer.
You have absolutely nothing of value to contribute to anything on this thread. Why not leave?
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You have absolutely nothing of value to contribute to anything on this thread. Why not leave?
Lay off the sauce and quit stalking me you ******* nob.
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So he hides it under some floorboards hoping that at some point in the future some electricians will find it? Why not simply take steps to ensure that it happens after his death?

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Well, the other story is that a servant found it stuck under the master's mattress, which makes more sense from the "where it would be found" viewpoint, but as that story comes from Mrs. Barrett, it is already suspect.
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Well, the other story is that a servant found it stuck under the master's mattress, which makes more sense from the "where it would be found" viewpoint, but as that story comes from Mrs. Barrett, it is already suspect.
And it’s the ever changing stories that make the whole thing totally impossible to believe
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Well, the other story is that a servant found it stuck under the master's mattress, which makes more sense from the "where it would be found" viewpoint, but as that story comes from Mrs. Barrett, it is already suspect.
I proposed a theory years ago that the Diary could have been kept under the mattress. Maybrick would have confident in the knowledge that the Diary was safe whilst he was ill and wouldn’t be found in the meantime should he recover. If the worst came to the worst it wouldn’t matter anyway and he would know it was in a place where it would be found. By secreting it under floorboards he would be aware that it was a place where it wouldn’t be found or at least unlikely to have been found.
This theory would support the lineage to Devereaux thru’ the Laundry fencing route as the bedding would have been managed by the lowliest maid etc….
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