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Old 08-22-2018, 05:40 AM
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Why don't you resort to some kind of logic instead of pathetic virtue-signalling?
Has it occurred to you that not everyone who disagrees with your intolerant world-view is "virtue signalling". I don't do "virtue signalling"; I mean what I say, and I don't say anything if there's no evidence for it.
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If the guy doesn't want to bake a cake for gay events, okay fine--I'm sure those people would rather support someone who doesn't hate them.

But they should include that fact on all signage and advertising, so that people who don't agree with his position who aren't in the affected groups can choose not to support him either.
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If the guy doesn't want to bake a cake for gay events, okay fine--I'm sure those people would rather support someone who doesn't hate them.
I don't think think he actually hates anyone. He's managed to convince himself that he'd be committing a sin (and apparently a fairly major one) by supplying a cake for a same-sex wedding. IMHO a foolish belief, but I think it's sincerely held.
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Just be happy with who and what you are, Harry, and then you can mind your own business when it comes to others. Consider yourself lucky if all your friends and family members have turned out 'normal' - as you would define it.

And they can consider themselves even luckier if they all conform to your lofty standards for living.

This website may be concerned with events from 130 years ago, but most of us have moved on from the worst aspects of 'Victorian values'.
Just wait until this madness becomes the prevailing thought. You'll have dumb, misguided parents putting their kids forward for transitioning just because they're a bit tomboyish or effeminate.
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As I understand it, it's not that he refused to bake a cake for certain types of people - he merely refused to make the cakes in certain themes. And I really don't see a problem with that. The guy has plainly advertised what sort of cakes he makes - if you want a cake that differs from those, then he is completely within his rights - legally and morally - to refuse.

What if someone wanted to order a cake in commemoration of Robert E. Lee's birthday, or Confederate Memorial Day? What if the baker didn't approve of those? If it's a plain cake with nothing associated with the Confederacy on it, there would be no reason to refuse. But if the customer asked for a Stars and Bars on the cake, and perhaps a "Happy Birthday, Bobby", is that really still the same?
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As I understand it, it's not that he refused to bake a cake for certain types of people - he merely refused to make the cakes in certain themes.
He'll bake wedding-themed cakes, though, if I understand correctly. Just not when certain types of people are the ones getting married.
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He'll bake wedding-themed cakes, though, if I understand correctly. Just not when certain types of people are the ones getting married.
Yes, and again, I don't have a problem with him only making traditional wedding cakes. He also refuses to bake Halloween-themed cakes, but no one's thrown a hissy-fit over that. Seriously, what's the problem?
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Yes, and again, I don't have a problem with him only making traditional wedding cakes. He also refuses to bake Halloween-themed cakes, but no one's thrown a hissy-fit over that. Seriously, what's the problem?
He doesn't make Hallowe'en-themed cakes for anyone though. It's not like he does make Hallowe'en-themed cakes, but he won't make one for Jewish people.
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He doesn't make Hallowe'en-themed cakes for anyone though. It's not like he does make Hallowe'en-themed cakes, but he won't make one for Jewish people.
He doesn't make gay or trans cakes for anyone, either. He does make wedding cakes for anyone, though. Like he himself said, if they chose any cake from the selection available in the store, there'd be no problem. However, the moment they want a rainbow or some such on the cake, that's when he tells you it's not what he does.

Moreover, this new case results from a trans attorney requesting a trans-themed cake from this particular baker on the very same day that the supreme court ruled in his favour over the gay cake thing. You think that's a coincidence? I have no sympathy whatsoever.

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