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Old 06-01-2018, 02:47 PM
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re: #2. Could James Hay actually be James Harvey?

Hi, Scott. What's this an allusion to please? I seem to recall that Harvey was born in Sussex.
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Old 06-02-2018, 10:55 AM
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The April 1891 census shows that Hay was one of three policemen staying at the Brighton Seaside home. This would have been close to the time (allegedly) that Kosminski was identified.
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The April 1891 census shows that Hay was one of three policemen staying at the Brighton Seaside home. This would have been close to the time (allegedly) that Kosminski was identified.
Interesting conjecture Scott, Ive always suspected that Harvey has more to his story. I wonder about Pearce in much the same way.
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I was shot down when I raised this as an "idea" a few months back, which is why I don't post much here anymore. Too many angry people will slam you for raising points that should be considered and don't hesitate to ridicule you over it..that being said - this guy could just as well have been Jack. Ex-police just before the killings got started. Florid (blotchy) complexion....arrested 2x on suspicion of being the ripper:
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I was shot down when I raised this as an "idea" a few months back, which is why I don't post much here anymore. Too many angry people will slam you for raising points that should be considered and don't hesitate to ridicule you over it..that being said - this guy could just as well have been Jack. Ex-police just before the killings got started. Florid (blotchy) complexion....arrested 2x on suspicion of being the ripper:
George Compton
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Absolutely seems like this guy is suspicious. I didnt see were it said he had florid complextion though.
Anyone find anything else on george compton?
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Edward Watkins was suspected by an anonymous correspondent from Trowbridge.

George Morris was also suspected as an ex-constable.
hi jerry what do you hear what do you say!
do you have any more info on these guys, especially watkins? what do you think of william thick as a suspect in light of some of the info in Tom's book?

If it the ripper was a cop, I would look for any officers who had connections to the earlier torso cases
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Interesting conjecture Scott, Ive always suspected that Harvey has more to his story. I wonder about Pearce in much the same way.
Harvey was dismissed in 1889 (1st July), so would not have been a serving officer at the time of the 1891 census. Interestingly, while his personal file (in 2012) still contained documents which supported his appointment, those which (presumably) explained the reasons for his dismissal were not. The word "Dismissed" is written on the file cover in heavy pencil and underlined.
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Yes, all that was addressed years ago. If Harvey was dismissed, would that devalue his worth as a later witness? Or maybe the Seaside Identification occurred in 1889?
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Yes, all that was addressed years ago. If Harvey was dismissed, would that devalue his worth as a later witness? Or maybe the Seaside Identification occurred in 1889?
That's not the point I'm making, Scott, so apologies if I've clumsily given a contrary impression. I was merely pointing out that the James Hay who appears in the 1891 census at the Seaside Home is unlikely to be Pc James Harvey if the latter was dismissed almost 2 years previously. I'm certainly not disputing the contention that he could have been the Seaside Home witness; I've argued in favour of that possibility on a previous thread (hence my reference to his having been born in Sussex).
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Its an interesting question in particular with Kate Eddowes murder. Pearce, Harvey, Watkins, Marriot, Halse and Outram, Long, Morris...did I miss anyone?...were all within the vicinity of her murder at the time it happens. Its the only one of the "Canonical" murders that has a plethora of police near... at the time of the murder.
Hi,
Just something else regarding the Eddowes murder that I thought about some years back, if the GSG was written by the ripper, and the line referring to " blamed for nothing"
Well this is what she said was her name when originally taken in to Bishopsgate Police Station.....only the Police officers on duty would have known that.

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