How did JtR see in the dark?

[FISHY1118]

i suppose that jack took chapman into the back of 29 hanbury st at 5.30am, spent 15 minutes carving her up in what then would be daylight when 17 people were getting ready to start their day while no one saw or heard a single thing, yes thats what must of happened for sure ..... more speculation where this theory is concerned. thats if long is to be believed

[FISHY1118]

After Richardson left the yard at 4.50am then Chapman was dumped between 4.55 an 5.15 when it was still dark and there was no one around more than enough time to complete the task . ... its not that complicated. she had been dead more than an hour as dr phillips testified to, and was right

[Herlock Sholmes]

you contradicted your self when it came to long. end of that story.

Try reading. End of story

[Herlock Sholmes]

How could long claim to see chapman at 5.30am the cadosche claim he heard a voice say no at 5.15am and something hitting the fence .... presumably chapmans body. ANOTHER CONTRADICTION

For a start you fail to take into consideration that this was the Victorian era and very few poor people would have owned watches or even clocks. They relied on Church clocks and bells. Many of them even relied on policemen to wake them up to go to work in the morning. Therefore, as everyone knows that knows anything about the case, we have to take timings with a pinch of salt.

[Herlock Sholmes]

After Richardson left the yard at 4.50am then Chapman was dumped between 4.55 an 5.15 when it was still dark and there was no one around more than enough time to complete the task . ... its not that complicated. she had been dead more than an hour as dr phillips testified to, and was right

You are the only living person that believes this drivel.

Well done

[Herlock Sholmes]

Just to remind you Fishy as you’ve absent-mindedly forgotten to respond to my post citing Simon’s research which destroys Knight’s theory.


“How much more do you need? She wasn’t a Catholic. The place where she was supposed to have lived didnt exist. Sickerts studio where the action centred didn’t exist. The hospital where she was supposed to have been taken didn’t exist.”

End of....

[FISHY1118]

sherlock as your totally confused as to the motive and the people involved which im not surprised, ill no longer discuss it with you ,its just as easy to prove the facts as to how the murders where committed, but your clueless where thats concerned as well, you keep ignoring the medical experts . as far as ripper experts goes, gees that made me laugh there are NO RIPPER EXPERTS

[FISHY1118]

Haha.. No, there are many who know its the only way the murders were committed. Your still searching for some crazy lunatic that doesn't exist ,you still wont believe the evidence i just told how Chapman was murdered AS KNIGHT TOLD EVERYONE YEARS AGO, ITS OVER BUDDY GIVE IT UP you are in deed blind and silly and still looking for a ghost .

[FISHY1118]

Remember Eddows.... 4 minutes to remove a kidney and uterus in the dark ,dream on chapter 8 Marriott book read read read read how they describe the difficulty in that procedure extreme skill and care IN THE DARKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK DREAM ON . THE KILLER WAS A MEDICAL MAN A VERY SKILLED ONE AT THAT . not druitt not cutbush not kominsky or any number of suspects who couldn't tie a shoelace let alone remove organs in that manner .

[FISHY1118]

Read post 187 ...to your post 186

[FISHY1118]

BTW your 184 post is a cop out , so we might as well take everybodys account of times and dates and testimony with a pinch of salt . what a stupid comment . its any wonder your still looking for a ghost

[Herlock Sholmes]

sherlock as your totally confused as to the motive and the people involved which im not surprised, ill no longer discuss it with you ,its just as easy to prove the facts as to how the murders where committed, but your clueless where thats concerned as well, you keep ignoring the medical experts . as far as ripper experts goes, gees that made me laugh there are NO RIPPER EXPERTS

The whole of modern medical science will confirm to you without exception that estimating times of death in the Victorian era was little more then guesswork and could be wildly inaccurate due to various reason. This is fact. Of course you dishonestly choose to ignore it because it doesn’t suit your silly theory.

You are a typical conspiracy theorist joke. In twenty years time you’ll still be blathering on about this drivel to a chorus of laughter.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Haha.. No, there are many who know its the only way the murders were committed. Your still searching for some crazy lunatic that doesn't exist ,you still wont believe the evidence i just told how Chapman was murdered AS KNIGHT TOLD EVERYONE YEARS AGO, ITS OVER BUDDY GIVE IT UP you are in deed blind and silly and still looking for a ghost .

Nope you are on you’re own. The Knight theory was comprehensively debunked in 1976. Only conspiracy theorist loonies give it any time.

If it has been solved why does no one agree? Oh of course - it’s a conspiracy of silence involving Freemasons and ripperologists just don’t want it to be true. I bet it’s connected to Roslyn Chapel and The Illuminati too eh. Perhaps we better not discuss it in case the men in Black arrive.

[Herlock Sholmes]

BTW your 184 post is a cop out , so we might as well take everybodys account of times and dates and testimony with a pinch of salt . what a stupid comment . its any wonder your still looking for a ghost

Try reading history instead of toilet paper. If people didn’t have watches (and by the way there were no mobile phones the either) then how would they know the precise time at any given time if there was no church clock in sight. So when someone says 5.15 it might easily have been nearer to 5.30.

Welcome to the world of knowledge. Everyone that studies the case proceeds with caution when it comes to timings.

[Herlock Sholmes]

Read post 187 ...to your post 186

What?

post 187 utterly ignores post 186! And we all know why you won’t respond don’t we.

You support Knight’s theory.

Proper, provable, testable, in writing as opposed to opinion evidence that shows categorically that Knight’s theory was an utter fabrication. No honest person would continue.

Knight said that the conspiracy took place because Annie Crook had a child by PAV and a possible Catholic heir to the throne was unthinkable. It is proven that Crook wasn’t a Catholic.

Knight said that Crook and Cook were one and the same simply to shoehorn Crook into Cleveland Street. It is proven that Cook and Crook were different people. For one thing Cook was still living in Cleveland Street 5 years after the alleged events.

It is a vital part of the theory that Crook met PAV in Sickerts studio at 15 Cleveland Street. It is proven that this studio at 15 Cleveland Street did not exist.

Another crucial part of the fairy tale is that these mysterious Freemasons took Crook to a hospital to get information from her and then perform some kind of operation on her. It is proven that the hospital mentioned did not exist.

Annie Crook is supposed to have had mental health issues as a result of this horrible experiment. It has been proven that she had epilepsy like her mother before her.

Even Sickert himself admitted that it was all a lie.

No theory in the world could survive these hammer blows. They cannot be refuted. They are facts.

Facts are facts. No one takes Knight seriously except you. It is and will remain a joke.


Try a conspiracy theorist forum because you’re wasting everyone’s time here.