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Old 05-01-2012, 01:27 PM
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I have seen a number of books with photo's of the Kelly murder scene, most of which were published prior to the Maybrick diary furore, and in many of these like it or not, there is the distinct mark on the panelling behind Kelly that more than resembles the initials "FM".
"The Secret of Prisoner 1167" is one that springs to mind.
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Old 05-01-2012, 02:02 PM
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The Goodmichael,


What 21st century technology are you referring to? This cut can be seen in any of the photos, not just mine.


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Old 05-01-2012, 02:33 PM
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Hi Tempus.

i love casebook, there are people on here who are willing to put their heads above the parapet and propose sometimes outlandish and sometimes possible theories. I am just one of those who will read and make my own mind up ( without resorting to sarcasm or crude remarks ). Hope you havent been offended by anything i have remarked upon, please keep up the good work and trust me when i say that your work in terms of convincing people on here was never going to be easy....especially when it comes to maybrick and the diary ! he is slightly more likely to be JTR on here than the Duke of Clarence ( but only very slightly !! ). I am intrigued by what you have suggested thus far, especially with regards to the handwriting and the stoke newington post card. I may need slightly more convincing with the FM and photo but thats not to say i cannot be convinced.

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Old 05-01-2012, 04:34 PM
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Hi Tempest

Great work. Very thought provoking. Hang in there and keep digging into the theory you are working on. Above all else please don't stop posting your work on Casebook. I've worked for a lot of different people during my career in the Navy and days in the Pentagon. When I ran into sarcasm during a policy brief it was a sure bet I'd stepped on someone's rice bowl and they were too lazy to argue the facts. Sarcasm is great in a pub but its a bully tactic when you are working...and there is no room for bullies in a life raft.
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I left it there for the fools but they will never find it. I was too clever. Left it in front for all eyes to see.

It is not difficult to decipher these lines; you simply have to read them properly.

Tempus
Hi Tempus,

I see it differently.

"All eyes" refers to the Masonic "all-seeing eye".

The mark isn't an "F".... it's the symbol for PI (3.14 - the time he killed her).

The "M" is a math term for "the slope of the line". Look at how the ankle is posed: the slope is where the tattoo is.

Blow up that tattoo: that's where your message is.


-Bill
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I give up!
Tempus
Really? And lose the Soothsayer Garter? You've only just got it, man!

Nil desperandum, Sir Tempus o'Revelat. At least you've added to the canon of our possible answers which is more than most have done (Caz has had a few goes - I loved her explanation of 'Christmas save the whore's mole bonnet' on another site, for example). Generally speaking, we get long, fallow periods of inane rambling (usually from me) interspersed with invective from the Naysayers. You've offered real insight with the Stoke Newington postcard (superb work), and your 'FM' has merit, although your 'M' - let's be honest - is a wee bit tangential. The key thing is that you are actually attempting to add to our knowledge.

Keep the faith, Sir T., and fly the flag. We should never back down even when we feel we're backed against a wall and the rifles are getting loaded. Keep fighting until the day they finally fire!
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Old 05-01-2012, 10:49 PM
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[quote=Soothsayer;218810]Really? And lose the Soothsayer Garter? You've only just got it, man!



Hi Tempus!

Don't you dare give up on us! Mr. Soothsayer, (my employer), to my knowledge, has never awarded the ancient Soothsayer garter to anyone before on such short acquaintance.

I'm looked on as a bit of a nutter myself in some quarters and I've never even seen Mr. Soothsayer's garter.

Welcome to 'The Think Outside the Box Club'! Our numbers are growing all the time, and, as Mr. Soothsayer has often said (I think it was him) - 'If you can't join them, beat them'.

Carol
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Really? And lose the Soothsayer Garter? You've only just got it, man!



Hi Tempus!

Don't you dare give up on us! Mr. Soothsayer, (my employer), to my knowledge, has never awarded the ancient Soothsayer garter to anyone before on such short acquaintance.

I'm looked on as a bit of a nutter myself in some quarters and I've never even seen Mr. Soothsayer's garter.

Welcome to 'The Think Outside the Box Club'! Our numbers are growing all the time, and, as Mr. Soothsayer has often said (I think it was him) - 'If you can't join them, beat them'.

Carol
Well I certainly shall from now on!

PS Shouldn't you be pouring my evening sherry, young Carol? You probably work 20 hours a day and I probably don't pay you, but - if I did - I'd expect you to earn your money, you know!
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Old 05-02-2012, 04:29 AM
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Hi Tempus.

i love casebook, there are people on here who are willing to put their heads above the parapet and propose sometimes outlandish and sometimes possible theories. I am just one of those who will read and make my own mind up ( without resorting to sarcasm or crude remarks ). Hope you havent been offended by anything i have remarked upon, please keep up the good work and trust me when i say that your work in terms of convincing people on here was never going to be easy....especially when it comes to maybrick and the diary ! he is slightly more likely to be JTR on here than the Duke of Clarence ( but only very slightly !! ). I am intrigued by what you have suggested thus far, especially with regards to the handwriting and the stoke newington post card. I may need slightly more convincing with the FM and photo but thats not to say i cannot be convinced.

regards

Jason
Hello Jason

I agree that adventurous and new ideas can be useful to further the field and provoke us to think differently about the case. However, I would submit to you that totally outlandish and unworkable ideas such as those that have been suggested here recently at Casebook that the murderer was Vincent van Gogh, Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, or Robert Louis Stevenson, are not in the least helpful but more in the category of time wasters. This forum and the serious people who frequent it deserve better!!!

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However, I would submit to you that totally outlandish and unworkable ideas such as those that have been suggested here recently at Casebook that the murderer was Vincent van Gogh, Henri de Toulouse-Lautrec, or Robert Louis Stevenson, are not in the least helpful but more in the category of time wasters. This forum and the serious people who frequent it deserve better!!!
You need to define outlandish I suppose. In my mind, this FM thing is also outlandish and does nothing to further the case. If these incidents were brought up and then quickly dismissed, we could say that the case is furthered by quick removal of dross, but is that really what we want? Every day the study of Jack the Ripper becomes more and more like a ghost hunting exercise. I'm sure we will one day have people posting EVP files and claiming they are the voices of victims calling for help. I may be a skeptic... scratch that, I am a skeptic about many things and I believe historical inquiry should be that. We don't often see the kind of nonsense...er ...fantastic theorizing in other historical studies. Even Dracula has lost all the fantasy elements and we've boiled the legends down to a Wallachian prince who may or may not have done the terrible things he was accused of, but at least we've put a name and a history to the phantoms. I guess I'd like to see something similar happen here, but not in such a weird and illogical manner... according to my way of thinking, mind you.

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