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'IF' we believe Annie was killed at around 5.30 ,she had 3.5 hours of wandering beforehand.That's a lot of wandering with no sightings in an area where people were coming and going through the night .If there was a 'case' for believing a ripper victim was not killed on the spot and transported there then surely Annie is the one...and what's the explanation for the blood at no.25?
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'IF' we believe Annie was killed at around 5.30 ,she had 3.5 hours of wandering beforehand.That's a lot of wandering with no sightings in an area where people were coming and going through the night .If there was a 'case' for believing a ripper victim was not killed on the spot and transported there then surely Annie is the one...and what's the explanation for the blood at no.25?
Let me guess...she was in a pub with Sickert. And the blood was the red paint from one of his brushes?

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Let me guess...she was in a pub with Sickert. And the blood was the red paint from one of his brushes?

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Before you go taking the piss out of others maybe you should show your own findings/own theory/whatever you want to call it. Having said that I do think Sickert is a silly suspect.

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'IF' we believe Annie was killed at around 5.30 ,she had 3.5 hours of wandering beforehand.That's a lot of wandering with no sightings in an area where people were coming and going through the night .If there was a 'case' for believing a ripper victim was not killed on the spot and transported there then surely Annie is the one...and what's the explanation for the blood at no.25?
Remember what Phillips said at the inquest. He examined Chapman at around 6.30, and stated that he was of the meaning that she had been dead AT LEAST two hours, and PROBABLY MORE.

So that should take perhaps three hours of that "lost" time, if Phillips was on the money. My own feeling is that he was.
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Let me guess...she was in a pub with Sickert. And the blood was the red paint from one of his brushes?

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I have no data on this Pierre... The data is keeping itself hidden until the data interpreter decides to use the data and it was just a topic for discussion, data and bull...t free
Thank ya very much. Did you know about the blood in 25 Pierre?
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Remember what Phillips said at the inquest. He examined Chapman at around 6.30, and stated that he was of the meaning that she had been dead AT LEAST two hours, and PROBABLY MORE.

So that should take perhaps three hours of that "lost" time, if Phillips was on the money. My own feeling is that he was.
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It makes sense. Also the remains of undigested food, baked potato, at the lodging house would suggest the same. What do we make of someone who can sit on a step cutting leather off his boots and miss a body a couple of feet away though?
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'IF' we believe Annie was killed at around 5.30 ,she had 3.5 hours of wandering beforehand.That's a lot of wandering with no sightings in an area where people were coming and going through the night .If there was a 'case' for believing a ripper victim was not killed on the spot and transported there then surely Annie is the one...and what's the explanation for the blood at no.25?
Hi packers

First of all she was seen alive around 5:30 in front of the murder scene talking to the man who was probably her killer. a neighbor heard voices in the back yard around the same time and then her body was discovered shortly thereafter.

My guess is she wasn't wandering but laid down somewhere quiet and out of the way to sleep/ rest for those hours she wasn't seen.
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Hi packers

First of all she was seen alive around 5:30 in front of the murder scene talking to the man who was probably her killer. a neighbor heard voices in the back yard around the same time and then her body was discovered shortly thereafter.

My guess is she wasn't wandering but laid down somewhere quiet and out of the way to sleep/ rest for those hours she wasn't seen.
Wow Abby, that's a statement and a half, that she was seen alive.By a witness who didn't know her at all and in the dark
Have we not just been discussing maxwell on another thread
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Wow Abby, that's a statement and a half, that she was seen alive.By a witness who didn't know her at all and in the dark
Have we not just been discussing maxwell on another thread
um YOU are the one making the INCORRECT claim she was NOT seen for 3 and half hours before. so you know what you can do with the stupid little emoticon.

And yes its so much more likely that she was killed somewhere else and dropped off there other than the more innocuous fact that she was seen and heard around the time of her murder at the location of her murder and killed there. Including the police at the time.

Not to mention the fact that the consensus with most people with at least half a brain is that Maxwell is not a credible witness and long is.

But I guess its not conspiratorial enough. or stupid.

perhaps she was dropped there by little green men who abducted her in there space ship and did medical experiments on her.




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um YOU are the one making the INCORRECT claim she was NOT seen for 3 and half hours before.
Incorrect claim? How is that incorrect.Who else do you wish to believe saw her after 2

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and yes its so much more likely that she was killed somewhere else and dropped off there other than the more innocuous fact that she was seen and heard around the time of her murder at the location of her murder and killed there.
So pleased you agree and are beginning to think straight
She wasn't heard....presuming again?A thud was heard along with 'voices'

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Not to mention the fact that the consensus with most people with at least half a brain is that Maxwell is not a credible witness and long is.
Proof of this is??? Or is it just a whim
A typical case of choosing evidence to suit a theory,so disappointing

Afraid the rest of the garbage isn't worthy of an adult response
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