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Old 02-17-2014, 03:09 PM
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Rereading richard Whittington Egans excellent book "jack the ripper the definitive casebook "and I'm surprised to read in the chapter regarding Druitt and cricket it mentions about David Anderson having the dear boss letter compared to druitts handwriting and the conclusion that they are the same can anyone shed any light on this for me.
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Old 02-19-2014, 11:39 AM
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Rereading richard Whittington Egans excellent book "jack the ripper the definitive casebook "and I'm surprised to read in the chapter regarding Druitt and cricket it mentions about David Anderson having the dear boss letter compared to druitts handwriting and the conclusion that they are the same can anyone shed any light on this for me.
This is the first time I have heard this claim, although I should say that all supposed handwriting "matches" to Dear Boss are probably not what is claimed. Dear Boss is written in period copper plate writing. Suspects of the day wrote in period copper plate writing. End of story. Add that to the fact that most who have studied the Whitechapel Murders think Dear Boss and the other letters were not written by the killer, this makes such claims absurd.

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This is the first time I have heard this claim, although I should say that all supposed handwriting "matches" to Dear Boss are probably not what is claimed. Dear Boss is written in period copper plate writing. Suspects of the day wrote in period copper plate writing. End of story. Add that to the fact that most who have studied the Whitechapel Murders think Dear Boss and the other letters were not written by the killer, this makes such claims absurd.

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Hi Chris,thanks for the reply I have to admit I think if the claim was true then it would be general knowledge and as you said the "dear boss" letter is a fake.
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Rereading richard Whittington Egans excellent book "jack the ripper the definitive casebook "and I'm surprised to read in the chapter regarding Druitt and cricket it mentions about David Anderson having the dear boss letter compared to druitts handwriting and the conclusion that they are the same can anyone shed any light on this for me.
Yes. It was the copperplate style which was considered similar. It was suggested by Nigel Moo
rland (the then editor of The Criminologist) that the handwriting was also very similar to the Druitt samples which I had obtained in 1971 from the Treasury building in the Inner Temple. As far as I know Druitts handwriting had not been seen before.
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Yes. It was the copperplate style which was considered similar. It was suggested by Nigel Moo
rland (the then editor of The Criminologist) that the handwriting was also very similar to the Druitt samples which I had obtained in 1971 from the Treasury building in the Inner Temple. As far as I know Druitts handwriting had not been seen before.
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So it hasn't been examined by, say a Forensic Document Examiner?
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Sir Melville Macnaghten claimed it took him a year but he finally pinpointed the journalist who had hoaxed the 'Dear Boss' letter.

From two other sources of the Edwardian era, this is likely to have been Tom Bulling.

In his memoir Macnaghten claimed that the [un-named] Druitt had written the Goulson St graffiti.

I argue that he did not mean this, e.g. he was lying. It was a right upper-cut, so to speak, to Anderson and his Jewish slur. In neither version of Mac's report does the graffiti figure, nor in what he propagated via Sims.
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Victorian schoolchildren of all classes were taught to write in the copperplate style, which remained standard for most of the century, so I don't think that would be anything to get excited about.

As far as Macnaughton is concerned, old men misremember, and perhaps in his memoirs he believed he had seen a photograph of the Goulston St graffito. Or perhaps his hatred of Anderson was still simmering.
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If somebody is arguing for their suspect by bringing up any of the letters, that's a good way of knowing that they're not worth listening to.
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Seen a ... photograph of the graffiti??

Unlike every other significant police figure, with the arguable exception of Jack Littlechild, his memory of what happened between 1888 and 1891 was spot on.

If you do not believe me then check out the memoir. It's online.

Nevertheless, I agree with you about his book seething--not simmering--with hatred for Anderson, and Warren.
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Well, Jonathon, Macnaughton's memory certainly failed him in 'Days of my Years' when he recalled that his suspect (Druitt) 'committed suicide on or about the 10th of November.'
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