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Couldn't agree more Trevor, a recent post by Bridewell showed how 0 and 5 were by far the most popular times mentioned by witnesses, rounding up or rounding down.


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Bu as we know witness timings are paramount in some of the murders, where a witness timing that could be 2-3 mins out can have a bearing on the whole scenario.

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But Eddowes was dead by 1.45am for example. Why would he kill Nichols so close to the time that he had to be at work when he couldnít possibly have known if he might have needed to clean up before he clocked in?
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I believe the argument is the night of the double event he wasn't working the next morning and was visiting mummy who lived nearby.
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I would suggest that it is unsafe to totally rely on times given by witnesses for the reasons that should be cleary visible to all.

public clocks being either fast or slow
personal time pieces being either fast or slow.
Times given by witnesses who didn't have a time piece and simply guessed the time.

Despite all of that we still see researchers firmly relying on these times given by witnesses in trying to prove a theory

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Agreed. For me the times are simply markers of a sort, giving a general idea how much time may have elapsed between events and a general idea of time. I think it's folly to rely upon times as reason for suspicion or to establish any kind of reliable time-frame(s). I think we can gain a general idea. That's about it.
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I believe the argument is the night of the double event he wasn't working the next morning and was visiting mummy who lived nearby.
Hi Abby,

Iíve never really gone for this suggestion though. If someone is stopped for questioning at say 2.15 on the morning of a murder the alibi ďIím off to visit my mumĒ isnít really going to hold much water.
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Iíve never really gone for this suggestion though. If someone is stopped for questioning at say 2.15 on the morning of a murder the alibi ďIím off to visit my mumĒ isnít really going to hold much water.
im on my way home from Mums, stopped off at the pub
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im on my way home from Mums, stopped off at the pub
Did you?
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Did you?
lol-no-taxi dad tonight. celebrating at the pub tomorrow.
Lahinch Irish Pub to be exact-good band playing.
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lol-no-taxi dad tonight. celebrating at the pub tomorrow.
Lahinch Irish Pub to be exact-good band playing.
So itís a couple of glasses of fruit juice followed by a nice healthy salad of course
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lol-no-taxi dad tonight. celebrating at the pub tomorrow.
Lahinch Irish Pub to be exact-good band playing.
Irish Inn Mates or Sligo Creek, Abby?

anyone heard from Steadmund, big fight tomorrow night
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Iíve never really gone for this suggestion though. If someone is stopped for questioning at say 2.15 on the morning of a murder the alibi ďIím off to visit my mumĒ isnít really going to hold much water.
Especially if stopped near Mitre Square.
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