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Hi Abby. As with all-things JtR, there's always that one definitive clue or piece missing which might tip the scales definitely to a certain consensus. In the immediate, he doesn't seem to be a killer out for a sexual gain just based on the nonsexual contact with the victims and the amount of time spent with them (well, except for Mary Kelly).
That's what I was trying to get at Robert, in particular with the brief amount of time it appears he had with some victims. I think in the case of Kelly though we may see some evidence that her killer "vented" on her. And there is a high possibility that she and her killer knew each other, and by the time and the state of her dress, Id guess pretty well.

In that instance there may well be some romantic implications in the damage inflicted...and perhaps in the organ taken from that scene.
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Hello Michael,

If Kelly's killer "vented" on her how would you describe what was done to Eddowes? I see the same hand only just more time with Kelly.

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If Kelly's killer "vented" on her how would you describe what was done to Eddowes? I see the same hand only just more time with Kelly.

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The facial slashes and the wounds on the legs and arms cd, and I think the evidence in the Kelly case suggests she struggled somewhat with her attacker. I see in the Eddowes case a high probability that what was done to her was intended to create an impression, not just the result of the impulsive actions of a mad-man with a sharp blade.
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I think there could very well be the morbid possibility of a Frankenstein type harvester who is switching out body parts when they become too rotten. Which would mean they need somewhere to store a body they are replacing the parts of.

Body parts were thrown into the garden of the descendants of Mary Shelly.

So one can imagine a body where arms, legs, and even torsos are being dispensed with and that this is the torso murderer, but when it comes to sexual parts needing to be replaced, this is JtR, who is one and the same as this particular torso murderer.

It suggests JtR was a necrophiliac.

Maybe he eventually got a girlfriend, had a family and that is what out the cooler on him.

I would look at the possibility that a recovered torso and parts were missing a head. This is the head he doesn't want to replace. So it would never turn up. It would also be the closest connection to a victim JtR would have.

This would be aligned with the Rainham Mystery of 1887.

Elizabeth Jackson's head was not found either.

It seems quite possible that JtR attacked prostitutes who didn't look fantastic because he wasn't interested in their head or faces but for their sexual organs. Eddowes face he hacked up. Kelly also. He cut their necks down to the bone almost severing their heads.

Anyway despite this, the JtR crimes are sexual in nature because he posed the victims into sexual poses to degrade them (which is evident from the facial hacking and attack on the sexual organs), spread their legs, and this was done to SHOCK the society of Whitechapel which he also held a great deal of hatred for.
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