Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Jacob the Ripper

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • #31
    Hi PCdunn,
    I just think we can tie ourselves in knots here thinking of elaborations on the name Jack and the 'Ripper'. After Kate Eddowes was found she was described as being 'ripped up like a pig'. That was and is a common enough expression and whoever wrote the letters would have noted the abdominal wounds and use of a knife in the murders of Polly and Annie and put two and two together.

    Comment


    • #32
      Hi, Rosella: True observations! And the name was probably invented by a journalist, anyway. . .
      Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
      ---------------
      Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
      ---------------

      Comment


      • #33
        Originally posted by Fisherman View Post
        Actually, thinking it through is what tells us that [Levy depositing the apron in the Goulston St doorway] IS illogical. Not impossible in any way, but less logical than a beeline to home from Mitre Square.
        Not if he felt the need to scrub the blood/faeces off his hands or simply to jettison the large piece of bloody, $hitty rag before entering his house. From his deep familiarity with the area around Middlesex Street, Levy would have known that there were handy dark doorways in Goulston Street to duck into, and do whatever he felt necessary, safe in the knowledge that he was only a minute away from safety once he was done.
        how logical is it to summon the police for a door-to-door in your neighborhood by disposing of the rag so close by?
        Levy had his own premises, and an Englishman's home is his castle. "I don't remember seeing or hearing anything unusual that night, officer." - "Thank you, Mr Levy. Sorry to have troubled you."
        Last edited by Sam Flynn; 12-14-2018, 07:34 AM.
        Kind regards, Sam Flynn

        "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

        Comment


        • #34
          I did a bit of digging into the name ‘Jack’ a while back.

          Comment


          • #35
            Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
            Not if he felt the need to scrub the blood/faeces off his hands or simply to jettison the large piece of bloody, $hitty rag before entering his house. From his deep familiarity with the area around Middlesex Street, Levy would have known that there were handy dark doorways in Goulston Street to duck into, and do whatever he felt necessary, safe in the knowledge that he was only a minute away from safety once he was done.Levy had his own premises, and an Englishman's home is his castle. "I don't remember seeing or hearing anything unusual that night, officer." - "Thank you, Mr Levy. Sorry to have troubled you."
            He would have passed many a doorway on his way home, and son it would be taking an unnecessary risk to prolong his stay on the streets. It is what it is, so let's not try and change it.

            Saying that an Englishman home is his castle is kind of silly. If it is, then surely he would prefer not having that castle raided by policemen? He would have INVITED trouble, and it IS illogical to do so.

            Comment


            • #36
              Taken over from the "Geoprofiling" thread
              Originally posted by Joshua Rogan View Post
              Checking the relevant Goad maps, there appear to be two addresses of "36 Middlesex Street", one on each side (though this may possibly be due to renumbering as the maps are from different years). The one Sam selected is shown as a tea warehouse on the 1890 map. On the 1887 map showing the opposite side (which incidentally is in the City as the boundary runs along the middle of the street) 36 is a shop, one shop down from the corner of Stoney Lane.
              Thanks, Josh

              Taking this revised location on Middlesex Street, there was an even shorter walk between Levy's shop and where the apron was jettisoned, whether one went via Wentworth St or New Goulston Street. Take your pick; the distance is about the same either way.

              Click image for larger version

Name:	36 Midx to WMD.jpg
Views:	1
Size:	65.4 KB
ID:	667640
              Kind regards, Sam Flynn

              "Suche Nullen" (Nietzsche, Götzendämmerung, 1888)

              Comment


              • #37
                Originally posted by Sam Flynn View Post
                Taken over from the "Geoprofiling" thread
                Thanks, Josh

                Taking this revised location on Middlesex Street, there was an even shorter walk between Levy's shop and where the apron was jettisoned, whether one went via Wentworth St or New Goulston Street. Take your pick; the distance is about the same either way.

                [ATTACH]18943[/ATTACH]
                It still involves doubling back. And it still involves discarding the apron piece in very close proximity to his own doorstep. That is nothing much to be happy about.

                Comment


                • #38
                  The new book, Jacob the Ripper, by Neil and Tracy I’Anson is coming out soon.

                  New informations were discovered!



                  The Baron

                  Comment


                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Fisherman View Post

                    It still involves doubling back. And it still involves discarding the apron piece in very close proximity to his own doorstep. That is nothing much to be happy about.


                    But staying near the murdered woman, and keeping the knife on himself, and searching for a policeman are all things to be happy about!

                    Strange world this ripperology



                    The Baron

                    Comment


                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Fisherman View Post

                      He would have passed many a doorway on his way home, and son it would be taking an unnecessary risk to prolong his stay on the streets. It is what it is, so let's not try and change it.

                      Saying that an Englishman home is his castle is kind of silly. If it is, then surely he would prefer not having that castle raided by policemen? He would have INVITED trouble, and it IS illogical to do so.


                      Look who is writing this! a Lechmerian!



                      The Baron

                      Comment


                      • #41
                        Originally posted by The Baron View Post
                        The new book, Jacob the Ripper, by Neil and Tracy I’Anson is coming out soon.

                        New informations were discovered!



                        The Baron
                        and what new information is that?
                        "Is all that we see or seem
                        but a dream within a dream?"

                        -Edgar Allan Poe


                        "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
                        quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

                        -Frederick G. Abberline

                        Comment


                        • #42
                          Originally posted by The Baron View Post



                          But staying near the murdered woman, and keeping the knife on himself, and searching for a policeman are all things to be happy about!

                          Strange world this ripperology



                          The Baron
                          Yes, the irony is delightful

                          Comment


                          • #43
                            It's out now!

                            When playing the game of Name the Ripper, many authors start with a suspect and attempt to make them fit the facts; some can't even be proved to be in London at the time of the murders. What is required is an ordinary man local to the East End; a man who suffered mental illness, and was known to prowl the streets at ni

                            Comment


                            • #44
                              Originally posted by AdamNeilWood View Post
                              Congratulations on the Swanson book Adam. Excellent stuff. Macnaghten next? Or Warren? Or Anderson?
                              Regards

                              Sir Herlock Sholmes.

                              “A house of delusions is cheap to build but draughty to live in.”

                              Comment


                              • #45
                                Originally posted by Herlock Sholmes View Post

                                Congratulations on the Swanson book Adam. Excellent stuff. Macnaghten next? Or Warren? Or Anderson?
                                Thanks very much! Glad you enjoyed it.

                                I have a couple of projects to get done first, but the next 'big' book will be a similar biography of Wynne Baxter - Life and Times of a Victorian Coroner.

                                Comment

                                Working...
                                X