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    A rare photo of legendary outlaw Billy the Kid, purchased for less than a subway ride, could now fetch $5 million.

    The outlaw, whose real name was William H. Bonney, was playing croquet with his gang of Lincoln County Regulators in late summer 1878 when this 4-by-5-inch tintype image was captured, according to Americana company Kagin’s, which is negotiating the sale of the photo.



  • #2
    Fascinating. Will be interesting to see how this develops.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Fantomas View Post
      Fascinating. Will be interesting to see how this develops.
      Pun intended?
      G U T

      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by GUT View Post
        Pun intended?
        Banged to rights.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Harry D View Post
          A rare photo of legendary outlaw Billy the Kid, purchased for less than a subway ride, could now fetch $5 million.

          The outlaw, whose real name was William H. Bonney, was playing croquet with his gang of Lincoln County Regulators in late summer 1878 when this 4-by-5-inch tintype image was captured, according to Americana company Kagin’s, which is negotiating the sale of the photo.


          http://nypost.com/2015/10/13/this-bi...rth-5-million/
          very cool. It does look like him and for an old photo it pretty clear.
          But how in the heck are they going to verify it?
          "Is all that we see or seem
          but a dream within a dream?"

          -Edgar Allan Poe


          "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
          quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

          -Frederick G. Abberline

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Harry D View Post
            A rare photo of legendary outlaw Billy the Kid, purchased for less than a subway ride, could now fetch $5 million.

            The outlaw, whose real name was William H. Bonney, was playing croquet with his gang of Lincoln County Regulators in late summer 1878 when this 4-by-5-inch tintype image was captured, according to Americana company Kagin’s, which is negotiating the sale of the photo.


            http://nypost.com/2015/10/13/this-bi...rth-5-million/
            Actually the article said his name was William McCarthy, though the name "William H. Bonney" is usually given as his real name.

            It is interesting. Funny to think of Billy playing croquet (of all games) but why not? I actually hope it is proved to be genuine. But it is a risky thing about discovering photographs of famous events or people that have never been shown before. There is a photo of the moment war on Serbia was declared in July 1914 in Vienna, and Hitler is in the center of the huge crowd cheering. This picture has been reproduced many times, but recently some expert actually questioned if the Hitler image was a part of the actual photo or superimposed some point after 1933 when he was an international figure.

            Jeff

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mayerling View Post
              Actually the article said his name was William McCarthy, though the name "William H. Bonney" is usually given as his real name.

              It is interesting. Funny to think of Billy playing croquet (of all games) but why not? I actually hope it is proved to be genuine. But it is a risky thing about discovering photographs of famous events or people that have never been shown before. There is a photo of the moment war on Serbia was declared in July 1914 in Vienna, and Hitler is in the center of the huge crowd cheering. This picture has been reproduced many times, but recently some expert actually questioned if the Hitler image was a part of the actual photo or superimposed some point after 1933 when he was an international figure.

              Jeff
              hi Jeff
              Billy he kid was born Henry McCarty in NY city. He started going by William Bonney some time after his first kill, probably because he was on the run. He was also known as William Antrim, his stepfathers last name occasionally, and Kid Antrim before being more commonly called Billy the Kid.

              There is only one other known picture of him-a portrait of him and its pretty good. So I don't know how they are gonig to verify the Croquet picture as him since it is at distance.

              Billy the Kid playing Croquet!?! LOL
              Love the sweater too!!!
              Last edited by Abby Normal; 10-14-2015, 11:17 AM.
              "Is all that we see or seem
              but a dream within a dream?"

              -Edgar Allan Poe


              "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
              quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

              -Frederick G. Abberline

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                hi Jeff
                Billy he kid was born Henry McCarty in NY city. He started going by William Bonney some time after his first kill, probably because he was on the run. He was also known as William Antrim, his stepfathers last name occasionally, and Kid Antrim before being more commonly called Billy the Kid.

                There is only one other known picture of him-a portrait of him and its pretty good. So I don't know how they are gonig to verify the Croquet picture as him since it is at distance.

                Billy the Kid playing Croquet!?! LOL
                Love the sweater too!!!
                Maybe he was JtR too with all those false names
                G U T

                There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by GUT View Post
                  Maybe he was JtR too with all those false names
                  Well, let's see...Billy was shot by Pat Garrett in Arizona in 1881, and supposedly killed. Most of his targets were people in the opposition of the Lincoln County War (an interesting subject in itself). He was not known to hate prostitutes, nor to kill with a knife (he was known as a really fast gunfighter). Sure, why not say he was Jack. He also (as he is playing croquet here) travelled back in time to the late 1700s and wrote the politically harsh series of letters as "Junius" as well. Note the two pseudonyms "Junius" and "Jack" begin with a "J". There may be something there.

                  Jeff (not "Junius" or "Jack").

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                    hi Jeff
                    Billy he kid was born Henry McCarty in NY city. He started going by William Bonney some time after his first kill, probably because he was on the run. He was also known as William Antrim, his stepfathers last name occasionally, and Kid Antrim before being more commonly called Billy the Kid.

                    There is only one other known picture of him-a portrait of him and its pretty good. So I don't know how they are gonig to verify the Croquet picture as him since it is at distance.

                    Billy the Kid playing Croquet!?! LOL
                    Love the sweater too!!!
                    I can't understand Abby why the whole bunch of them are playing croquet! Baseball was the growing popular sport at the time. Or even pitching pennies. I'm surprised someone isn't bringing them tea and water crest sandwiches or scones - hell even cricket would have been far better than croquet!

                    Jeff

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Mayerling View Post
                      Well, let's see...Billy was shot by Pat Garrett in Arizona in 1881, and supposedly killed. Most of his targets were people in the opposition of the Lincoln County War (an interesting subject in itself). He was not known to hate prostitutes, nor to kill with a knife (he was known as a really fast gunfighter). Sure, why not say he was Jack. He also (as he is playing croquet here) travelled back in time to the late 1700s and wrote the politically harsh series of letters as "Junius" as well. Note the two pseudonyms "Junius" and "Jack" begin with a "J". There may be something there.

                      Jeff (not "Junius" or "Jack").
                      Well I just thought it made more sense than some of the theories that are coming up.
                      G U T

                      There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                      • #12
                        Jack played shuffleboard

                        Originally posted by GUT View Post
                        Maybe he was JtR too with all those false names
                        Druitt played cricket.

                        Jack played shuffleboard...
                        Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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                        Von Konigswald: Jack the Ripper plays shuffleboard. -- Happy Birthday, Wanda June by Kurt Vonnegut, c.1970.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Pcdunn View Post
                          Druitt played cricket.

                          Jack played shuffleboard...
                          So will I in about 2 weeks
                          G U T

                          There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
                            very cool. It does look like him and for an old photo it pretty clear.
                            But how in the heck are they going to verify it?
                            Ouija Board.

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                            • #15
                              About Billy the Kid playing croquet. Wasn't he at the time of the photo, being employed by a British ranch owner?
                              Could that be a possible reason for him trying the game, if the owner played it?

                              By the way, I am English, and I have never played croquet-- or watched Downton Abbey!!

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