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I'm OK with excluding Stride, but not Eddowes. McKenzie neither had a uterus, kidney nor any other lower abdominal organ removed, mainly because her abdomen wasn't cut through. Indeed, her only abdominal cut extended from the bottom of her breast to her navel, i.e. on the upper abdomen, and it was not deep, either.

Stride, of course, sustained no abdominal wounds at all, only a cut throat - and that not as severe as we've seen in other Ripper victims. In my view, both she and McKenzie were killed by two different men, and neither of them was the Ripper. Or Torsoman, for that matter.
oh shoot Sam-I meant to say stride or Nichols!!!! sorry!
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Let me give you an example. When i was young and more stupid and reckless i liked to do coke. Most of the time i liked to do it in the comfort of my home, having purchased from friends, and would indulge at leisure. Howeber, there was a period when the habit was at its worst, where if i ran out, i would go out and buy it from “dealers” out on the street or pushers at some coke house and do some there. This was more impulsive, less plannning, riskier, and even the way i took it was different.

Hopefully you can see the analogy.
I can see the analogy, Abby, but it only goes so far. What the Ripper did to his victims took longer than doing coke (correct me if I’m wrong); what he did was more conspicuous & looked more suspicious than doing coke and, last but not least, getting caught cutting up a woman would mean he would hang, whereas getting caught doing coke wouldn’t.
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Where as i agree there is probably more planning that needs to be involved in the torso murders its not that much of a distinction really to be significant.
That’s your opinion and you’re entitled to it, but it far from convinces me.

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If mckenzie isnt a ripper victim than neither is stride and eddowes
Stride may not have been a Ripper victim. The big problem with McKenzie is why the comparatively large gap?
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Stride may not have been a Ripper victim. The big problem with McKenzie is why the comparatively large gap?
There are other problems with McKenzie as well, John, such as the absence of the "Ripper's" signature neck mutilations, and extensive abdominal mutilations and organ removal.
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