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Phillips did not say that. The quote is not from Dr Phillips, but is an "opinion piece" written by an editorial writer for the Lancet, link below:

https://www.casebook.org/press_repor...cet880929.html
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The press coverage of the Chapman inquest appears to have a break in the testimony following women & children being removed in preparation of the release of the horrific details.

The BMJ made reference to this omission but only paraphrased the details:
The reposts published in the daily press are incomplete. It is there desirable to state that the parts removed were a certain portion of the abdominal wall, including the navel; two thirds of the bladder (posterior and upper portions); the upper third of the vagina and its connection with the uterus; and the whole of the uterus.
https://www.casebook.org/press_repor...bmj880922.html

The Lancet could have used testimony given by Phillips at that point.
No newspaper choose to publish those details offered by Phillips, but a Lancet reporter may have been present.
Or, one of the dailies may have passed their verbatim record over to the Lancet for them to publish?
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The press coverage of the Chapman inquest appears to have a break in the testimony following women & children being removed in preparation of the release of the horrific details.

The Lancet could have used testimony given by Phillips at that point.
No newspaper choose to publish those details offered by Phillips, but a Lancet reporter may have been present.
Or, one of the dailies may have passed their verbatim record over to the Lancet for them to publish?
From what Phillips said (as recorded in some of the dailies incidentally), there's nothing like "obviously the work of an expert", "one sweep of a knife", etc. That smacks clearly of purple prose with more than a hint of sensationalism, which doesn't strike me as the good doctor's style. Besides, as I've intimated, the Lancet doesn't even suggest that these were his words in any case.
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From what Phillips said (as recorded in some of the dailies incidentally), there's nothing like "obviously the work of an expert", "one sweep of a knife", etc. That smacks clearly of purple prose with more than a hint of sensationalism, which doesn't strike me as the good doctor's style. Besides, as I've intimated, the Lancet doesn't even suggest that these were his words in any case.
I certainly agree that the Lancet only provided paraphrase. In fact it begins with, "he stated that.....", and then proceeds to describe the gory details.
So the Lancet are not using any verbatim words from Phillips that we know of. Which brings us to the next problem, where you say:
"...there's nothing like "obviously the work of an expert", "one sweep of a knife", etc."
This is likely more paraphrase, and I think we both agree Phillips was not so dramatic in his statements.
Also, there's nothing like it because the entire paragraph (or more) was edited out, so we can't say what Phillips alluded to in the missing portions of his testimony.
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