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  • #16
    Originally posted by Abby Normal View Post
    only pierre could turn a thread into a debate about a simple adjective.

    possible means possible. you know like yellow means yellow.

    good grief.

    if you need the actual dictionary definition-go look it up.
    No, I can just ask you, Abby Normal, since you say the concept is simple!

    So, is it "possible" that the killer succumbed to an illness?

    1. What sort of possibilities were there for becoming ill, according to medical
    research in his own time?

    2. And what were the different types of deceases?

    3. How high were the risks?

    4. And how high were the risks to die from the different deceases?

    Kind regards, Pierre

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Pierre View Post
      No, I can just ask you, Abby Normal, since you say the concept is simple!

      So, is it "possible" that the killer succumbed to an illness?

      1. What sort of possibilities were there for becoming ill, according to medical
      research in his own time?

      2. And what were the different types of deceases?

      3. How high were the risks?

      4. And how high were the risks to die from the different deceases?

      Kind regards, Pierre
      This is a fantastic example - going back to the writing on the wall - of an otherwise correctly spelt post with a single (extraordinary) spelling mistake.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Pierre View Post
        No, I can just ask you, Abby Normal, since you say the concept is simple!

        So, is it "possible" that the killer succumbed to an illness?

        1. What sort of possibilities were there for becoming ill, according to medical
        research in his own time?

        2. And what were the different types of deceases?

        3. How high were the risks?

        4. And how high were the risks to die from the different deceases?

        Kind regards, Pierre
        yes it is possible the killer succumbed to an illness.
        "Is all that we see or seem
        but a dream within a dream?"

        -Edgar Allan Poe


        "...the man and the peaked cap he is said to have worn
        quite tallies with the descriptions I got of him."

        -Frederick G. Abberline

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Pierre View Post
          Hi,

          But the concept wasn´t "probable". It was "possible".

          Regards, Pierre
          I would define an event being possible as one in which there is a nonzero chance of occurence. But I concede that this isn't very useful and a historical conceptualization may be better.

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          • #20
            Did the professionals (ie surgeons, pathologists) wear gloves at that time? What kind of gloves? Cannot have been industrially produced rubber gloves. Does anybody have information on this?

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            • #21
              If that was the case then I hope the irony of it all isn't lost.
              wigngown 🇬🇧

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              • #22
                Originally posted by IchabodCrane View Post
                Did the professionals (ie surgeons, pathologists) wear gloves at that time? What kind of gloves? Cannot have been industrially produced rubber gloves. Does anybody have information on this?
                G'day Ichabod.

                It is generally accepte that a US surgeon (general???) I can't recall his name, was the first to introduce surgical gloves, at least to general use, in the mid 1890s.
                G U T

                There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by GUT View Post
                  G'day Ichabod.

                  It is generally accepte that a US surgeon (general???) I can't recall his name, was the first to introduce surgical gloves, at least to general use, in the mid 1890s.
                  Now if you want a source, I will have to go hunting, but it's the sort of junk in my head.
                  G U T

                  There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                  • #24
                    possible

                    Hello All. Since some are discussing, inter alia, philosophical possibility, permit me to point out that, philosophically, "possible" is divided into:

                    1. logical

                    2. ontological

                    3. physical (or natural)

                    4. normative

                    Sadly, there are those who conflate the possible with probabilities greater than 0 and less than 1.

                    This is, I think, an egregious error.

                    Cheers.
                    LC

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by GUT View Post
                      Now if you want a source, I will have to go hunting, but it's the sort of junk in my head.

                      My name is Dave. You cannot reach me through Debs email account

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                      • #26
                        Thanks Mate it was Halstead I was thinking of.
                        G U T

                        There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                        • #27
                          Same hospital realised how dangerous latex gloves could be.
                          My name is Dave. You cannot reach me through Debs email account

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                          • #28
                            According to 'Medical Services and the Hospital in Britain 1860-1939' Surgeons' rubber gloves and gauze face masks weren't in general use in British hospitals before the turn of the century.

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                            • #29
                              Hi All

                              Major Illness that could have been caught, but not only ones:

                              1.Septicaemia leading to Sepsis.
                              2. Hepatitis C

                              Others have pointed out, without personal protective equipment, when carrying out mutilations, any cuts on killer could become infected, either directly from blood or bacteria from intestines.

                              Risk of death extremely high, no antibiotics to use against bacterial infections and no steroids or other medications which would counter effects of Hep C.

                              Please note I am not saying any such illness was caught, the questions asked were:

                              If it was possible?
                              What risk was there?
                              What risk of death?

                              hope this info helps with those answers


                              Steve
                              Last edited by Elamarna; 04-06-2016, 03:02 AM.

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                              • #30
                                All dispute about likelihood aside, I have to admit that this would be an absolutely poetic ending. Karma in motion.

                                To be fair, it is possible too...you just never know.

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