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Old 10-23-2018, 06:21 AM
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Funnily enough, Alan Moore author of "From Hell " is a practicing Grand Wizard.
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Funnily enough, Alan Moore author of "From Hell " is a practicing Grand Wizard.
Not in the KKK sense, I trust.
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Old 10-23-2018, 06:41 AM
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Is the kidney sacred to Venus? The bladder?
The kidney is and so are the sex organs and MAYBE anything connected to them. The bladder could be considered as an annexe to the kidneys as they deal with the production of urine.

I did find this...

"Herbs associated with Venus often have fragrant red flowers or fruit. Healing herbs that have astringent qualities, that are toning to the skin and/or affect the kidneys and urinary system are often associated with Venus as are any with aphrodisiac qualities and those that help balance the female system."

http://www.witchipedia.com/planet:venus

This links Venus astrologically to Libra and to bladders.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...ladder&f=false

And here...

https://acutonics.com/news/celebrating-venus/

We find evidence of her connections to the bladder.

The ripper also took a heart and wombs. Obviously a heart would symbolise Love(Venus) and wombs also do.

Also, the reason we involve Venus is because(someone, I forget) made the suggestion that the symbol the ripper was profaning was the vessica piscis. Which means fish bladder. There is a famous pic of Cupid urinating on Venus' nether regions to symbolise her origins from the sea. Salt water= urine.

https://www.newyorker.com/books/page...-figure-in-art

More connecting the planet venus to the bladder...

"Air is her element. Her nature is moist. She rules Taurus and Libra, and she is in exaltation in Pisces. She is in analogy with the kidneys, the nervous system, the bladder and the neck. "

https://www.astrotheme.com/astrology_planets.php

I admit, I did not know the ripper had taken a bladder. But you see how it still fits with Venus? And here we have the neck associated with venus. Didn't the ripper ALWAYS cut the throat?

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Funnily enough, Alan Moore author of "From Hell " is a practicing Grand Wizard.
In which Moore talks of the Ripper haunting Ian Brady and Peter Sutcliffe to inspire them to become killers.

Brady saw a vague green face as a child and he knew it to be death. I also saw a green face as a teen. After waking. But I could have read of Brady's green face previously in a monthly magazine on serial killers I often read.

The face I saw was not vague. It was the actor John Thaw. He was not dead at the time, alas. He most famously played Inspector Morse. Mors is latin for death.

I kid you not.

Yes, I know how crazy all this sounds.

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Old 10-23-2018, 08:57 AM
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Oh, so there aren't people who believe in spells etc? And one of them could not have killed some people?

There's no logical reason why this could not have happened.

It still does...

http://www.theoccultmuseum.com/human...-modern-times/

And it just so happens that not that far from Whitechapel the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn opened a temple in...1888.
Maybe the killer was performing a spell to honour Venus and hence shine light on their order. They worshipped Isis. Who was the Egyptian version of Venus. Both love goddesses. As was Uriana, who they also worshipped.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isis-Urania_Temple

"Urania is often associated with Universal Love and the Holy Spirit. Sometimes identified as the eldest of the divine sisters, Urania inherited Zeus' majesty and power and the beauty and grace of her mother Mnemosyne. "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urania

"Many present-day concepts of ritual and magic that are at the centre of contemporary traditions, such as Wicca[1][2] and Thelema, were inspired by the Golden Dawn, which became one of the largest single influences on 20th-century Western occultism.[3][4] "

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hermet...he_Golden_Dawn
No I'm not saying that a killer could not have believed in spells.
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Old 10-29-2018, 06:57 AM
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I wonder what you do object to Mr Wheat.

Here's some more info connecting the killings to venus.

The number of days between the ripper killings all have a significance.
august 31st -8th september = 8 days(the number 8 is related to Venus. The planet Venus takes 8 years to rotate across the skies forming a pentagram)

sept 8th - sept 30th = 22 days. (The 22nd letter is V for Venus. The number 22 shows up in relation to Mary Magdelene. Who was said to be a prostitute, like the ripper victims. The number 22 is sacred to Mary Magdelene as her feast day is JULY 22ND.)

sept 30th - nov 9th= 40 days(Jesus spent 40 days and nights in the wilderness being tempted by Satan. Jesus and Mary Magdelene are of course connected. Mary is connected to Venus as is Jesus. The redness of the red rose is attributed to both Jesus and Venus. The five petalled rose is sacred to Venus because it is said be a symbol of the pentagram the planet Venus forms in the heavens. There were five ripper killings. The killer was forming a rose of blood. Venus gave the rose its colour with her blood, as did Jesus. Jesus is connected to Venus in many ways. Both went by the name of the Morning star for instance. Both are connected to love. The Vesica piscis connects them also. It is a symbol for Venus and Jesus. This was the symbol the ripper was said to be profaining or honouring with his killings. He also was forming a cross. It was on the cross that Jesus' blood dripped onto a white rose turning it red. You only have to look at the names of Jesus and Venus to see a similarity.)
In 1888 the Rosicrucians became the Hermetic order of the Golden Dawn and in that year formed a temple in London, not far from Whitechapel. They worshipped two Godesses of Love, like Venus.
The symbol of the Rosicrucians is the red rose on the cross. The ripper killings formed a very exact cross with an extra bloody death, Kelly, as the rose. Her body opened up like a blossoming red rose.

The first murder was in August, the 8th month. 8 days later the second killing took place. There is a lot of 8's. 8, as I said, is sacred to Venus. 888 is a number related to Jesus.

Venus. Jesus. One and the same. Is it any wonder that Christianity became so popular to Romans, who were already worshipping Venus?

All the body parts taken by the ripper were sacred or related to Venus. All the numbers relate to Venus.
The ripper killings were a very well planned ritual spell to Venus or even against Venus.
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Old 10-29-2018, 08:23 AM
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I wonder what you do object to Mr Wheat.

Here's some more info connecting the killings to venus.

The number of days between the ripper killings all have a significance.
august 31st -8th september = 8 days(the number 8 is related to Venus. The planet Venus takes 8 years to rotate across the skies forming a pentagram)

sept 8th - sept 30th = 22 days. (The 22nd letter is V for Venus. The number 22 shows up in relation to Mary Magdelene. Who was said to be a prostitute, like the ripper victims. The number 22 is sacred to Mary Magdelene as her feast day is JULY 22ND.)

sept 30th - nov 9th= 40 days(Jesus spent 40 days and nights in the wilderness being tempted by Satan. Jesus and Mary Magdelene are of course connected. Mary is connected to Venus as is Jesus. The redness of the red rose is attributed to both Jesus and Venus. The five petalled rose is sacred to Venus because it is said be a symbol of the pentagram the planet Venus forms in the heavens. There were five ripper killings. The killer was forming a rose of blood. Venus gave the rose its colour with her blood, as did Jesus. Jesus is connected to Venus in many ways. Both went by the name of the Morning star for instance. Both are connected to love. The Vesica piscis connects them also. It is a symbol for Venus and Jesus. This was the symbol the ripper was said to be profaining or honouring with his killings. He also was forming a cross. It was on the cross that Jesus' blood dripped onto a white rose turning it red. You only have to look at the names of Jesus and Venus to see a similarity.)
In 1888 the Rosicrucians became the Hermetic order of the Golden Dawn and in that year formed a temple in London, not far from Whitechapel. They worshipped two Godesses of Love, like Venus.
The symbol of the Rosicrucians is the red rose on the cross. The ripper killings formed a very exact cross with an extra bloody death, Kelly, as the rose. Her body opened up like a blossoming red rose.

The first murder was in August, the 8th month. 8 days later the second killing took place. There is a lot of 8's. 8, as I said, is sacred to Venus. 888 is a number related to Jesus.

Venus. Jesus. One and the same. Is it any wonder that Christianity became so popular to Romans, who were already worshipping Venus?

All the body parts taken by the ripper were sacred or related to Venus. All the numbers relate to Venus.
The ripper killings were a very well planned ritual spell to Venus or even against Venus.
Your theory is a crackpot theory.
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Old 10-29-2018, 09:26 AM
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I wonder what you do object to Mr Wheat.

Here's some more info connecting the killings to venus.

The number of days between the ripper killings all have a significance.
august 31st -8th september = 8 days(the number 8 is related to Venus. The planet Venus takes 8 years to rotate across the skies forming a pentagram)

sept 8th - sept 30th = 22 days. (The 22nd letter is V for Venus. The number 22 shows up in relation to Mary Magdelene. Who was said to be a prostitute, like the ripper victims. The number 22 is sacred to Mary Magdelene as her feast day is JULY 22ND.)

sept 30th - nov 9th= 40 days(Jesus spent 40 days and nights in the wilderness being tempted by Satan. Jesus and Mary Magdelene are of course connected. Mary is connected to Venus as is Jesus. The redness of the red rose is attributed to both Jesus and Venus. The five petalled rose is sacred to Venus because it is said be a symbol of the pentagram the planet Venus forms in the heavens. There were five ripper killings. The killer was forming a rose of blood. Venus gave the rose its colour with her blood, as did Jesus. Jesus is connected to Venus in many ways. Both went by the name of the Morning star for instance. Both are connected to love. The Vesica piscis connects them also. It is a symbol for Venus and Jesus. This was the symbol the ripper was said to be profaining or honouring with his killings. He also was forming a cross. It was on the cross that Jesus' blood dripped onto a white rose turning it red. You only have to look at the names of Jesus and Venus to see a similarity.)
In 1888 the Rosicrucians became the Hermetic order of the Golden Dawn and in that year formed a temple in London, not far from Whitechapel. They worshipped two Godesses of Love, like Venus.
The symbol of the Rosicrucians is the red rose on the cross. The ripper killings formed a very exact cross with an extra bloody death, Kelly, as the rose. Her body opened up like a blossoming red rose.

The first murder was in August, the 8th month. 8 days later the second killing took place. There is a lot of 8's. 8, as I said, is sacred to Venus. 888 is a number related to Jesus.

Venus. Jesus. One and the same. Is it any wonder that Christianity became so popular to Romans, who were already worshipping Venus?

All the body parts taken by the ripper were sacred or related to Venus. All the numbers relate to Venus.
The ripper killings were a very well planned ritual spell to Venus or even against Venus.
Absolute drivel. The internet is full of this conspiracy theorist nonsense. What’s wrong with people
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In which Moore talks of the Ripper haunting Ian Brady and Peter Sutcliffe to inspire them to become killers.

Brady saw a vague green face as a child and he knew it to be death. I also saw a green face as a teen. After waking. But I could have read of Brady's green face previously in a monthly magazine on serial killers I often read.

The face I saw was not vague. It was the actor John Thaw. He was not dead at the time, alas. He most famously played Inspector Morse. Mors is latin for death.

I kid you not.

Yes, I know how crazy all this sounds.
You obviously don’t or you wouldn’t believe any of this crap had the slightest significance to anything that has ever happened in the real world.
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Old 10-30-2018, 08:18 AM
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Maybe there’s something in this conspiracy theorist stuff?

I was bored.

Albie ( a+l+b+I+e)

1+12+2+9+5 =29 > 29 Hanbury Street.

Albie could be written Al B which could represent Al Baquara the second longest Sura in the Koran. It’s known as The Cow

So - t+h+e+c+o+w

20+8+5+3+15+23= 74

7 and 4 are the number of letters required for ‘Chapman dies.’

We can even bring in Venus (v+e+n+u+s)

22+5+14+21+19=81

8 x 1= 8

Chapman died on September 8th

Surely it can’t be a coincidence
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