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Isn't "Isaacs" Kozebrodski just a misprint?
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Apparently, the first fish and chips restaurant was opened by one Samuel Isaacs of Whitechapel....
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McCarthy served late night meals at his shop.
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And I'll bet they were warm and nourishing.
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For Chapman and Eddowes, JtR was arranging objects from their persons, around them.

JtR was likely not stuffing his shirt or pockets with their organs. They went into something.

What likely happened is that somewhere between slicing their throats and the mutilation he is preparing some things to the side. Be it a bag that is open, or a sprawled out cloth, he uses something. He is sorting through things and preparing to take organs.

This would be an organized part of his profile while his targeting may be opportunistic, it suggests his attacks must have an element of planning.

The idea that Eddowes knew a spot in Mitre Sq. doesn't seem to sit well with me. There are two officers on the beat and well when it comes to Eddowes, she isn't exactly very good at avoiding officers. Then there is the problem of not being able to get into her doss house because it is closed.

I don't subscribe to the idea that JtR got lucky. He had some luck but he also appears to have planned a lot.

Mitre Sq., to have that level of confidence, suggests more than luck. He even laid out objects around her.
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Isn't "Isaacs" Kozebrodski just a misprint?
Morning Advertiser 1st Oct;

"A member of the club named Kozebrodski, but familiarly known as Isaacs, returned with Diemshitz into the court"
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Morning Advertiser 1st Oct;

"A member of the club named Kozebrodski, but familiarly known as Isaacs, returned with Diemshitz into the court"
"A young Russian Pole named Isaac M Kozebrodski, born in Warsaw, who speaks the English language imperfectly, gave the following information..." (Daily News, 1st Oct 1888)

And, from a separate case the following year:

"Lewis Diemschitz, 27, and Isaac Kozebrodski, 19, surrendered to their bail to answer an indictment for making a riot" (The Times, 26th April 1889).
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