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Not sure you´re right there Errata.

Quote: Identified by Oswald Berkhan in 1881,[71] the term 'dyslexia' was later coined in 1887 by Rudolf Berlin,[72] an ophthalmologist practising in Stuttgart, Germany,[73] from the Greek prefix δυσ- (dus-), "hard, bad, difficult"[74] + λέξις (lexis), "speech, word".[75][76]

I don´t think most people would have been aware of what this was at the time. After all, there are still people today who are ignorant of this disorder and others who still think it is a made-up diagnosis and used to cover up low intelligence.

Prince Eddy´s tutor seemed to have been of the school of "beat it out of them" and I doubt he would have known or even accepted such a diagnosis, even if he had heard of it when Eddy was a child.

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I may not be...

But dyslexia was known. People had been exhibiting the symptoms for a very long time. Without a known cause or treatment, I'm sure it seemed like a kind of madness or a tall tale. But if someone described the symptoms to a well known doctor, he would have recognized it.

Mostly I have a problem with dyslexia because apparently the Prince had no problems with keeping up correspondence with any number of people, which got him into trouble. Now I realize that many people with dyslexia can write perfectly well, but he was receiving letters in return. I cannot imagine the Prince having someone read his intimate correspondence from unsuitable and possibly married or professional persons.
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But dyslexia was known. People had been exhibiting the symptoms for a very long time. Without a known cause or treatment, I'm sure it seemed like a kind of madness or a tall tale. But if someone described the symptoms to a well known doctor, he would have recognized it.

Mostly I have a problem with dyslexia because apparently the Prince had no problems with keeping up correspondence with any number of people, which got him into trouble. Now I realize that many people with dyslexia can write perfectly well, but he was receiving letters in return. I cannot imagine the Prince having someone read his intimate correspondence from unsuitable and possibly married or professional persons.
Hello Errata,

Not being able to read or write is not the only sign of dyslexia - many can read and write - my son and daughter had no problem reading - or writing. However both had problems with their handwriting and spelling, which led to them being accused of not trying. Eddy could well have both written neatly after hard slogging (and flogging!). Handwriting was a separate subject and taught in all schools unlike today.

Sweden is quite well ahead on dyslexia - perhaps because the Swedish King is dyslexic. My son was diagnosed quite late in his school career but my daughter was diagnosed after a full day of tests at a hospital. There is a very good swedish book which lists many of the signs of dyslexia, among others "losing" the last letter of a word and switching the letters of a word round:
as in feild, bron (field, born).

It would be interesting to see some of Eddy´s correspondence.

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Hello again Errata,
Try this http://www.paulfrasercollectibles.co...216&docid=1995. Doesn´really tell us much though.

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Try this http://www.paulfrasercollectibles.co...216&docid=1995. Doesn´really tell us much though.

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Yeah, I don't know. To me the signature looks pretty natural, free flowing, doesn't look like there were stops and starts I would expect from struggling through writing, but it's his signature. He probably signed it 5 times a day.

It sounds like dyslexia is getting a broader definition than it had when I was in school 15 years ago. And I'm not sure that's a good thing. Identifying problems is clearly a good thing, but lumping them in with existing disorders is always problematic. Most people here know dyslexia for the letter confusion with reading. If a kid says "No, I have a different kind of dyslexia." people would say "well you're full of crap." I have the worst time trying to explain aphasia to people, and that's something everyone has at least once in a while.
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Yeah, I don't know. To me the signature looks pretty natural, free flowing, doesn't look like there were stops and starts I would expect from struggling through writing, but it's his signature. He probably signed it 5 times a day.

It sounds like dyslexia is getting a broader definition than it had when I was in school 15 years ago. And I'm not sure that's a good thing. Identifying problems is clearly a good thing, but lumping them in with existing disorders is always problematic. Most people here know dyslexia for the letter confusion with reading. If a kid says "No, I have a different kind of dyslexia." people would say "well you're full of crap." I have the worst time trying to explain aphasia to people, and that's something everyone has at least once in a while.
There is also in some cases a tendency for Dyslexics to transpose numbers such as writeing 32 when they mean 23. I do that very infrequently My hand writing is atrocious and I tend to transpose letters. When I went to school they just assumed I wasn't applying myself.
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