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Besides, whether fish and chips were wrapped in newspaper or paper of some other kind, they would not resemble an American Cloth parcel, and they wouldn't have been tied up with a strap. It would have been a case of tucking the bundle under your arm, clutching it in your hand, or sticking it in your coat, and away to go.
They wouldn't have supplied plates either for people to carry their food back with, but people carry their food back on plates, they brought.

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[Coroner] Had you seen any one? - I had not. There was not a soul in the alley that I saw. After I saw the body lying on the pavement I heard a footstep coming from Old Castle-place, and I saw a young man, named Isaac Lewis Jacobs. I said, "Where are you going?" He said, "I am going to Wentworth-street to fetch something for my supper." At the time he was carrying a plate in his hand. Jacobs came back with me and stayed there until the sergeant arrived.
A strap is what we are talking about. A small loop that is easy to make into a sling hitch. Brought.
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There must have been plenty of shabbily dressed men with facial hair and blotchy complexions living in the area. Astrakhan Men less so.
I doubt he would wear Astrakhan, ever again.
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I doubt he would wear Astrakhan, ever again.
But what about before Kelly's murder? There'd have been people who would have known of men who owned and occasionally - or frequently - went about wearing an Astrakhan coat, gold watch chain and/or horseshoe tie-pin. I can't imagine there'd have been too many of those in the neighbourhood.
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They wouldn't have supplied plates either for people to carry their food back with, but people carry their food back on plates, they brought.
We're talking about cheap paper, not something as (comparatively) expensive as a plate. You don't bring your own paper to the chippy.
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Private establishments, clubs, beer houses, etc., could stay open longer.
Which explains why Lawende and company left at 1:30am
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But what about before Kelly's murder? There'd have been people who would have known of men who owned and occasionally - or frequently - went about wearing an Astrakhan coat, gold watch chain and/or horseshoe tie-pin. I can't imagine there'd have been too many of those in the neighbourhood.
Either he was dressing down for those instances or dressing up for the Kelly one.
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We're talking about cheap paper, not something as (comparatively) expensive as a plate. You don't bring your own paper to the chippy.
Fine, but one could easily bring a strap if one is bringing a plate. You do know across Europe that in various countries people carry they lunches in different ways even today?
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Fine, but one could easily bring a strap if one is bringing a plate. You do know across Europe that in various countries people carry they lunches in different ways even today?
Why would anyone, anywhere, bring a strap to wrap a packet of fast food?
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Why would anyone, anywhere, bring a strap to wrap a packet of fast food?
For the same reason, they use straps carrying lunches home across various European places.

It's hot.

Edit: Here is a modern version of what I am talking about.

and another.

These would have been makeshift in the past.
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For the same reason, they use straps carrying lunches home across various European places.

It's hot.
Fish and chips are warm, not exactly hot, and the paper they come wrapped in is perfectly capable of insulating the user from the faint risk of third-degree burns. Indeed, on a cold, rainy night, a fish supper tucked under the arm is truly one of life's great comforts.

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