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Old 11-22-2018, 08:05 AM
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As we can see there is not much difference. And they all have a double.

Was the killer mapping out his kill sites beforehand to make a symbol?
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I'd imagine if the murders had been scattered anywhere else in whitechapel you'd be able to discern some kind of pattern. It's called pareidolia.
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Old 11-22-2018, 08:38 AM
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I'd imagine if the murders had been scattered anywhere else in whitechapel you'd be able to discern some kind of pattern. It's called pareidolia.
We are not talking about a visual pattern. LIke a face. We are talking about a mathematical pattern.

Very different. Like SETI we should get excited when we see a mathematical pattern that suggests a meaning to it. An intent.

If ignore Kelly what we have is a diamond with a cross which happens to be a symbol for earth...

"This diamond symbol shown is an alchemical, mystical, and astrological symbol for “Earth.” Also seen with a circle around it, it symbolizes the movement and rhythm of nature’s cycles (i.e., four seasons) as well as the Aristotelian elements (see end of page).

The earth has long been worshipped by ancient mystics. It is a representation of harmony, stability, and oneness with all things – a communal arena in which the core (center point of the 4 diamond cross) represents a foundational energy of unity and well-being.

Indeed, earth magic is rooted in the ideology that all things of the earth are born from her, and therefore vibrate with earth energy. Early mystics and alchemists believed this earth energy could be drawn from all things, and ultimately used for further clarification. This clarification came in the form of manipulation of vibrations (earth energy waves), drawing elements into an experience, interpreting patterns within the vibrations (seeking answers) – to name a few uses for these practices. This symbol would be used in ritual for such clarifications."

https://www.whats-your-sign.com/diam...l-meaning.html

What we have is a spell to bring Venus to earth. Organised by elements in the Temple of Isis-Urania that was set up not far from Whitechapel in 1888. Isis and Urania are both goddesses connected to love.

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. What we have is a spell to bring Venus to earth. Organised by elements in the Temple of Isis-Urania that was set up not far from Whitechapel in 1888. Isis and Urania are both goddesses connected to love.
No. What we have is a random ‘pattern’ which could be ‘interpreted
any number of ways should anyone be so inclined. You haven’t a smidgeon of evidence that this Temple (or any of its members) were involved in these murders and I’m afraid it’s evidence that you need to lend substance to a theory. It’s also noticeable that you can casually say ‘if we ignore Kelly...’ Why should we ignore Kelly to make your pattern ‘fit.’ Most ripperologists consider Kelly a part of the series by the same killer.

It doesn’t matter at all that there are people that believe in the power of rituals and the earths ‘vibrations,’ as no serious people take them seriously. As I’ve said before, if you take the time and look closely enough you can find ‘patterns’ and ‘connections’ everywhere. You can ‘connect’ anything to anything else with relative ease. It’s what conspiracy theorist do 24/7 across the world. They are simply making things up.

There isn’t a scintilla of evidence that Jack the Ripper killed following some kind of ‘black magic’ plan.
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Very interesting study into beliefs in conspiracy theories in today's paper:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...iracy-theories
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Why should we ignore Kelly to make your pattern ‘fit.’ Most ripperologists consider Kelly a part of the series by the same killer
And if we ignore Stride, as some ripperologists are more inclined to do than Kelly, the "diamond" pattern (more of a trapezium) disappears.
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Very interesting study into beliefs in conspiracy theories in today's paper:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...iracy-theories
Omg. As if there's a plot to make Muslims the majority in Britain.

...Now, excuse me, I need to pray towards Mecca.
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And if we ignore Stride, as some ripperologists are more inclined to do than Kelly, the "diamond" pattern (more of a trapezium) disappears.
Exactly Gareth. We have far more reason to possibly exclude Stride from the list, as many do. Cherry-picking victims to fit some imagined pattern doesn’t wash whichever point we view it from. It has no more credence than resorting to anagrams to shoehorn Lewis Carroll into the frame or seeing imaginary images in Van Gogh paintings to find him guilty.
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All symbolic interpretations were just of an age a century before the geoprofile made sense of it all. They were all trying to find the same thing. A JtR who radiated out from the hot zone.

Even the investigators got that they needed to do door to door searches because it was someone in the middle of it all.

It's the single most obvious thing in the whole case.

Cemented by the Goulston St., apron piece.
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All symbolic interpretations were just of an age a century before the geoprofile made sense of it all. They were all trying to find the same thing. A JtR who radiated out from the hot zone.

Even the investigators got that they needed to do door to door searches because it was someone in the middle of it all.

It's the single most obvious thing in the whole case.

Cemented by the Goulston St., apron piece.
That it is likely is obvious.
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