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For those who believe in such experiences (and I have an open mind), they need to clarify what they mean by 'ghost' - e.g. there's a difference between 'tuning in' to some deceased person's 'vibrations' and actually seeing a spirit who is still alive in another dimension, or however they want to phrase it.
Noted, and a good point. I have an open mind, too. But, well, that's why this sort of thing is "paranormal", right? It includes everything from hearing strange noises at night to getting a "bad feeling" (to quote Luke Skywalker) about something, to seeing a figure, to the far more extreme end of the scale like violent interactions with apparitions.

My friend always said she did not know the librarian had died there, as it was years ago. She said the lady seemed as solid as anyone, but did not respond in any way if you spoke to her. Maybe just a residual "re-run" of things that had happened in the past? Still paranormal, I think.
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Hi, Abby,

Actually, "Christ crucified" is a fairly common expression among some Protestant and Fundamentalist Christian groups. I have heard it before, and I think they are putting the emphasis on the death and sacrifice of Jesus. Catholics, and other mainstream churches, are more likely to emphasize the resurrection, perhaps.

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http://www.ccf-nyc.com/
What she said. I can readily see how if you're not a Christian, or haven't been exposed to a lot of Christians, that might look negative or wrong, but really it's an expression of Christ's humility, and love for humanity. The central idea of Christianity is that Christ chose to die, horribly, for the sake of all humanity, when he could have chosen otherwise.
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It is odd how so many Christians seem to glorify the passion play and death more then the "resurrection" itself....and before the Christians jump all over me.. I said MANY.. not ALL... if you truly take offence to my statement stop and ask yourself which camp you are in!!

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Hi Stead

Speaking as an agnostic, I've always been a bit puzzled by the emphasis on the resurrection. I thought good deeds were their own reward. Admittedly, though, it is a bit off-putting. The late comedian Dave Allen had a line about turning up for his first day at a church school. "When the door was opened the first thing I saw was a bloke nailed up on the wall."
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It used to bother me a bit because I never thought it made sense. I wondered if the rest of the sentence had been painted over at some time in the past, despite the conditions of the lease, or by the church itself.
One thing puzzled me, the boss was as sharp as they come. Yet with Ferkins and Frank among his staff, he moved in next to a pub. The Anchor. I was dragooned very early on. I remember Frank telling the landlord's wife my pint should be on the house as it was my birthday.
She said of course and asked how old I was. Like the idiot I am I told her the truth, 18. She pointed at me and said "you've been drinking in here for the last two years!"
The Anchor eventually closed. Almost certainly because we moved again. It became the Livingstone Dance Academy, itself featured in a local newspaper because of alleged poltergeist activity.
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It is odd how so many Christians seem to glorify the passion play and death more then the "resurrection" itself....and before the Christians jump all over me.. I said MANY.. not ALL... if you truly take offence to my statement stop and ask yourself which camp you are in!!

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All too true.

But there are a lot of similar issues with some churches (not all of whom are christians) the ceremony takes presedence over the thing being observed.
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well I guess Jesus's death and resurrection is the ultimate "paranormal" experience.
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Noted, and a good point. I have an open mind, too. But, well, that's why this sort of thing is "paranormal", right? It includes everything from hearing strange noises at night to getting a "bad feeling" (to quote Luke Skywalker) about something, to seeing a figure, to the far more extreme end of the scale like violent interactions with apparitions.

My friend always said she did not know the librarian had died there, as it was years ago. She said the lady seemed as solid as anyone, but did not respond in any way if you spoke to her. Maybe just a residual "re-run" of things that had happened in the past? Still paranormal, I think.
Hi pc
I love old libraries! Worked in one but never saw a ghost but I can see how itís a repository of old images. Iíve heard a lot of stories about the rerun or imprinted type ghost. Fascinating.

Iíd be remiss however if I didnít point out that the actual ghost sighting it always
seems to be a friend. No one yet posted has actually said theyíve seen one.... yet.
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Iíd be remiss however if I didnít point out that the actual ghost sighting it always
seems to be a friend. No one yet posted has actually said theyíve seen one.... yet.
I told my only ghost story back in your thread about ghosts, several years ago.
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I told my only ghost story back in your thread about ghosts, several years ago.
I canít find it. Tell it again.
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