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Old 01-10-2018, 05:23 AM
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@ Suspect Zero: Ha! Sims was certainly a toff, wasn't he?

@ Station Cat: Thanks for the rundown on Sims and that great pic. I think the human memory is an unreliable thing, and that the stall-holder got things mixed up. No other witness description of the Ripper ever said a full beard, did it?
Hi Pat

The point of course is that back then as now no one has the slightest idea what the Ripper looked like, as I will be discussing in my presentation on "The Legend of Jack the Ripper" at RipperCon in Baltimore four months from now (get your reservations in!!!). As the old saying goes: "Rich man, poor man, beggar man, thief. . ."

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Another bearded Ripper suspect. Here is poet and very bad printer W. J. Ibbett to be discussed by GWU Professor Emeritus Casey Smith at RipperCon in Baltimore on the weekend of April 7-8.

Thompson and Ibbett seem to resemble each other rather closely in the two photos posted by Christopher, don't they?
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Thompson and Ibbett seem to resemble each other rather closely in the two photos posted by Christopher, don't they?
Curious.
I had the same thought.
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With all the witness sightings, the odds are at least one of them saw the Ripper.

I've always been surprised at the lack of sightings after the murders. You'd think at those early hours someone would've seen a suspicious individual leaving the crime scene. There are a few nuggets in the newspapers, like the man on the doorstep cleaning his hands, but nothing substantial.
Interesting observation on both counts here Harry. Certainly something for me to ponder over for a while
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I quote from the police description provided after the George Hutchinson interview: "Description: age about 34 or 35, height 5ft 6, complexion pale, dark eyes and eye lashes, slight moustache curled up each end and hair dark, very surley looking; dress, long dark coat, collar and cuffs trimmed astracan and a dark jacket under, light waistcoat, dark trousers, dark felt hat turned down in the middle, button boots and gaiters with white buttons, wore a very thick gold chain, white linen collar, black tie with horse shoe pin, respectable appearance, walked very sharp, Jewish appearance. Can be identified."

Seems like he borrowed part of the description from a photo of Sims......including the horseshoe pin. Who can see that kind of detail in the dark from the distance he claimed he viewed the man?
Clearly this was a lie.

You may well be onto something here suspect zero!!!!!
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The photograph of Sims, which supposedly resembled the Ripper, was on the cover of Sims's pamphlet "The Social Kaleidoscope" (1881).

And yes, he did have a full beard.

Here's a rather poor copy of the photograph.

http://www.casebook.org/forum/messages/4920/10624.html

What I find most curious is the fact that even in the days of Victorian facial hair, surely someone with a belter of a beard like SIMMS, would have been the most striking thing that witnesses would remember?
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Thought this newspaper article might be of interest (no mention of beards), but George SIMMS is mentioned as being a "suspect" towards the end and even puts forward a possible suspect..............
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Thought this newspaper article might be of interest (no mention of beards), but George SIMMS is mentioned as being a "suspect" towards the end and even puts forward a possible suspect..............
Hi Station Cat

Many thanks for posting that interesting 1924 article. Of course, the drowned man that Sims was proposing as a suspect was Montague John Druitt.

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Hi Station Cat

Many thanks for posting that interesting 1924 article. Of course, the drowned man that Sims was proposing as a suspect was Montague John Druitt.

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No problem, glad it was of interest and yes of course poor old Druitt put in the frame again
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