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What, for like maps of torso findings and stuff! Dave
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Maximum width is 10.46 miles. Dave
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Note the well inland placing. Maximum width 4.77 miles. Dave
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Note the well inland placing. Maximum width 4.77 miles. Dave
I would not get to carried away in the beleif that these bodies found were murder victims.

I refer back to The antaomy Act 1832 and also the post recently by Phil Carter titled The Coroners theory. The simple explanation for these torsos and body parts turning up is that if a body had been purchased or obtained for research then it was the responiblilty of the subsequnt owner to arrange for a proper burial.

That would no doubt have incurred extra costs so the most simple way would to have been to wrap it up and dump it in the thames or nearby, thats why the bodies referred to all turned up in those locations.
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They are maps Treveor. The why is irrelevant, the where is the thing. Dave
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They are maps Treveor. The why is irrelevant, the where is the thing. Dave
I am sorry but you logic is baffling me -------- again !
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Hi Trevor ,
But your theory doesn"t in any way explain the case of Elizabeth Jackson.
Elizabeth disappeared suddenly after being in recent contact with her sister and mother in Chelsea.She was pregnant and had almost reached full term and body parts were found in Battersea Park and across the river ,wrapped as a parcel and thrown over a high wall into a garden there .
The time line doesnt fit for any kind of natural death that was followed by the purchase of a corpse for medical reasons.
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Absolutely, Norma!
Trevor, if this was the case wouldn't you expect at least one of the other torsos to have showed a cause of death, after the careful examination of the internal organs that were conducted? How many perfectly healthy women aged 25 to 45 were dropping dead in London? Does a medical specimen come complete with wardrobe of their own and how come there were no male, elderly or very young bodies found?


Sorry for interupting the thread, Dave...I will check the maps later when I've got my geography head on. Thanks very much for attempting to map them.
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So last night before my sleep I downed my Thai ensure ( Thai because I am cheap and ensure cause I am almost 40) and i had the most bizarre dream. I guess Thai ensure does not agree with me. Anyhow I had a dream that after the vote for the 1832 anatomy act a dissenter yelled out, "mark my words, in 41 years there will be faces washing up in limehouse!!"

and so it was.....
anatomy act http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatomy_Act_1832
find description http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?p=111126

and because it wouldn't be a Dave post without one, a filthy map. Dave

No worries Debra, sorry it took so long to get around to it.
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Absolutely, Norma!
Trevor, if this was the case wouldn't you expect at least one of the other torsos to have showed a cause of death, after the careful examination of the internal organs that were conducted? How many perfectly healthy women aged 25 to 45 were dropping dead in London? Does a medical specimen come complete with wardrobe of their own and how come there were no male, elderly or very young bodies found?


Sorry for interupting the thread, Dave...I will check the maps later when I've got my geography head on. Thanks very much for attempting to map them.
I never suggested every single one merely offering an alternative view. Sadly alternative views seem to be what people dont want to hear.

Dont forget the mortality rate was high and there were many persons within those age parameters dying of various causes at that time. Phnemonia or how ever you spell it wouldnt show any outward symptons of death and not all would have been made the subject of post mortems as is still the case today.

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