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Is this the man who sent Donald Sutherland Swanson a copy of Sir Robert Anderson's "The Lighter Side of My Official Life"?

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Is this the man who sent Donald Sutherland Swanson a copy of Sir Robert Anderson's "The Lighter Side of My Official Life"?

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Why do you suppose this is that man?
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You sound as though I shouldn't suppose that it was this man.
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You sound as though I shouldn't suppose that it was this man.
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No, I just don't know enough background to wonder why this figure may be the man you say it is. It's a matter of my own ignorance.

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I am starting to suspect that Simon has a cryptic streak. It was suggested in some quarters that the 'Mysterious Fred' who presented Anderson's book to Swanson might have been none other than Fred Abberline, which would at least imply that Fred and Don were chummy, or that the old Inspector didn't think Anderson's book should be burned outright.

It was a rather thin line of argument.

I don't think it's Chopin, Deeming, or Flintstone, and having read Simon's thoughts on the Marginalia, I am even a little surprised that he is posting this under 'Non-Fiction.'
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Hi Jeff,

I was hoping by now that somebody might have been sufficiently curious to ask his name, but apparently this is not the case.

Anyway—

His name is Colonel Frederick Charles Keyser, CB [1842-1920], a fellow Freemason who lived not a million miles from Swanson.

In a number of letters to The Times and in other newspaper and masonic references he went by the informal moniker of 'Fred'.

I don't believe he is listed in Swanson's address book.

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Hi RJ,

That you of all people should buy the Swanson Marginalia is alarming. I always thought you were fairly rational.

Actually, Keyser is a thinly disguised Frederick Delius

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Rest easy, Simon; I am by no means married to the marginalia.
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Phew! That's a relief. You had me worried for a moment.
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Actually, Keyser is a thinly disguised Frederick Delius
He doesn't look like Delius, Simon. Perhaps he was thickly disguised?
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