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Old 02-13-2018, 06:57 AM
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When Van Gogh and the Maybrick Diary are dominating the message board you know Ripperology is on its ass!
Hi Harry,

The only other ‘suspect’ that I would say equals Van Gogh in lunacy would be Conan Doyle! Though didn’t someone once suggest Gladstone? As soon as some suggests Queen Victoria then we should all get our coats
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I look forward to the Bucks Row book.

Vincent?, I have a concern, having on numerous occasions, no doubt deservedly, the entire annual production of the British egg industry on my face after some idiotic post on these boards.
That's if the art world can be bothered. In another documentary Andrew Graham Dixon discussed a Walter Sickert painting without once mentioning JTR.
Van Gogh must be one of the most thoroughly researched artists ever, which is the reason for my concern.
Not only is it going up against ripper researchers, but the heavy hitters of the art world as well, with the very real risk that it's a time and effort consuming way of being made to look very silly.
Hi Martin,

I don’t think that Dale is concerned with looking silly. Just concerned with selling a book. If a man can come up against the absolutely categorical fact that his suspect wasn’t even in the country at the time of the murders and still press on with his book then there’s no hope or excuse.
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He pops in and out. Think like you and me he is not posting much at present. It's nearly all Maybrick. I do miss Pierre!, at least no dead dogs.
See Henry gone too. Shame.

Steve
It does seem strange not to see Pierre popping in to criticise everyone’s methods of conducting historical research.
Yes it’s a shame that Henry’s gone but he’ll probably drop in now and again when he’s having a break from the easel.
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If only he or Ed Stow would, one could have a really good debate.


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I bump into Ed occasionally and I believe he is still working on his Lechmere book.

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GUT how many alleged Ripper letters can you recall that were postmarked ‘Arles, France?
Dale has an explanation for that, something about getting others to post them for him, I think, see that wouldn’t have put Vincent’s neck in a noose, would it?
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Dale has an explanation for that, something about getting others to post them for him, I think, see that wouldn’t have put Vincent’s neck in a noose, would it?
At least he hasn’t gone down the doppelgänger route (a la Cream)

So Vincent wrote letters about things that were happening or were about to happen, in advance, and got someone (even though he was a loner as Dale pointed out in his first post) to post them.

If you try hard enough you can stretch anything in an attempt to make facts fit a fantasy.

I haven’t a clue where to look (I’ve just tried) but I wonder how much it would have cost to get from Arles to London in 1888?
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When Van Gogh and the Maybrick Diary are dominating the message board you know Ripperology is on its ass!
Are you sure it's not just that there are a lot of idiots on the message boards and in general Harry?
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Well I can't say what the worst theory has been... I do say Vincent is close to the top of that list, but I'll still give it a read so it can be debated... I like to see both sides before arguing, but I think Joseph Merrick was a worse suspect...even worse then Maybrick (who in my opinion is also a horrible suspect... and I have debated that publicly so no need to do it again)... but .......

hmmmm maybe Vincent snuck to London... broke Merrick out of the hospital, then they hitched a ride with Maybrick... went to pick up Sickert (more so Vincent could borrow paints than anything else)...picked up a hitchhiking Druitt who they mistook for Prince Eddie and one of them said.. you know what we should do... let's kill us some unfortunates...and they did....but only because they were under the spell of a 13 year old Aleister Crowley....who told them.. it's ok if we get buckled my friend (14 year old) Harry Houdini can bust us out......CASE CLOSED

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Well I can't say what the worst theory has been... I do say Vincent is close to the top of that list, but I'll still give it a read so it can be debated... I like to see both sides before arguing, but I think Joseph Merrick was a worse suspect...even worse then Maybrick (who in my opinion is also a horrible suspect... and I have debated that publicly so no need to do it again)... but .......

hmmmm maybe Vincent snuck to London... broke Merrick out of the hospital, then they hitched a ride with Maybrick... went to pick up Sickert (more so Vincent could borrow paints than anything else)...picked up a hitchhiking Druitt who they mistook for Prince Eddie and one of them said.. you know what we should do... let's kill us some unfortunates...and they did....but only because they were under the spell of a 13 year old Aleister Crowley....who told them.. it's ok if we get buckled my friend (14 year old) Harry Houdini can bust us out......CASE CLOSED

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lol. too logical
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Erm,... Dead dogs? Anyone care to shine a light on this? Two dogs dead dogs in Mary's room? Have I missed something?
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