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Old 10-27-2010, 11:39 PM
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Quite true. Of the named suspects, I entertain only four as remote possibilities, though I fully admit that as I'm quite new to the field I know little about some of them. One I regard as a 'novelty' suspect, and that's Tumblety; I don't actually think there's any possibility he was the Ripper.

The other three are Kosminski, Bury, and Klosowski, in the order I consider them likely. Of these only the last two, Bury and Klosowski, are known to have killed at all. Bury's known murder was more 'Ripperesque' and in keeping with the Ripper's modus operandi, but I struggle with the notion that someone who seems to have been perpetually drunk could have done anything like the Ripper slayings. Of all the named suspects I think that Klosowski by far is the most likely, though even there I would think it's more probably than not that he had nothing to do with them. But he is the only one that would fully satisfy me if tomorrow we had some independent confirmation that he was in fact the Ripper.
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DD just do not fall into the trap of having to adopt or defend a position that your not solid on. That is why I stress evidence based opinions. Dave
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:34 AM
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Hello DD. If you want to know about the England/London murder rate in 1888, why not look in the papers? I think you'll find about half a dozen or so murders each week. I did.

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Old 10-28-2010, 02:08 AM
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Hey Lynn, if you will send me the place and date I will plot these things for the class. Dave
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:12 AM
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Hello Dave. Young man, that's an incredibly good idea! I think first, however, that a consensus must be reached regarding:

1. Location. London only or all of England?

2. Method. All murders or by knife/razor only?

3. Should self-inflicted count?

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Old 10-28-2010, 02:16 AM
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Well sir, I do not have maps for all of England. I can separate the weapon type as a category unto itself, so all knife kills in one folder and such. I can do the same with self inflicted. As long as I have the data, for example ( Joe Jackass, 23 whatever the hell road, gunshot, self inflicted) would be stellar for me. I know it is much work for you, however, you have a good mind and have covered the material before so it will not be so bad. Dave
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Old 10-28-2010, 02:20 AM
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Hello Dave. I can do a little at a time (at least, until the term ends).

Shall we begin with the April 8 edition of Lloyd's?

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Sounds good Sir, just email me the details, I will then email you the map(s). Dave
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Interesting project. The best of luck to the both of you with that.
I seem to hazily recall that the most knife-related homicides in Victorian London occurred in West London. I'm afraid I don't recall if I read that in a thread or perhaps through statistics by Colin Roberts, but I might look it up at a later point (after having acquired some sleep first!)...
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Old 10-28-2010, 01:29 PM
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Hello Maria. Your answer is sharp, as always. (Sorry, couldn't resist.)

You will also find a good deal of murders and suicides done by razor.

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