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Thoughts of the journalist mate
Not inquest info
At the time of swearing in all sorts of presumptions may have been made by various journalists because she lived with him , but doesn't make them accurate

Wilkinson had yet to take the stand
The names were in quotes. Even your trusted Telegraph calls her Kelly.

Wilkinson knew her as Conway. But how does his saying that prove that she never used the name Kelly? Or Eddowes for that matter? Unless he had been with her 24/7 for the previous 7 years or so, he would have had no idea.
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Bishopsgate and the pawning of the boots
Both were on her return from Kent as I've been saying.
I may have good reason to suspect the dropping of the Conway at this point is important

I'm not aware of her being referred to as Kelly at any point during the inquest other than the mention of the pawned boots and the name she gave at Bishopsgate
If,as I strongly suspect,Eddowes was blackmailing her long term medical officer ..... then her records would have been under Conway.
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If,as I strongly suspect,Eddowes was blackmailing her long term medical officer ..... then her records would have been under Conway.
What's a long term medical officer?
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MB Lond,FRCP who treated her and Nichols for Rheumatic Fever from December 1867.
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MB Lond,FRCP who treated her and Nichols for Rheumatic Fever from December 1867.
You mean they kept going back to him, and/or he kept tabs on them, for 21 years?
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You mean they kept going back to him, and/or he kept tabs on them, for 21 years?
Especially when the Strep pyogenes has caused chronic kidney disease in Eddowes case.

You would recognize this passage from Major Henry Smith's book.

The kidney left in the corpse was in an advanced stage of Bright's Disease ; the kidney sent me was in an exactly similar state. But what was of far more importance, Mr. Sutton, one of the senior surgeons of the London Hospital, whom Gordon Brown asked to meet him and another practitioner in consultation, and who was one of the greatest authorities living on the kidney and its diseases, said he would pledge his reputation that the kidney submitted to them had been put in spirits within a few hours of its removal from the body-thus effectually disposing of all hoaxes in connection with it. The body of anyone done to death by violence is not taken direct to the dissecting-room, but must await an inquest, never held before the following day at the soonest.
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Especially when the Strep pyogenes has caused chronic kidney disease in Eddowes case.

You would recognize this passage from Major Henry Smith's book.

The kidney left in the corpse was in an advanced stage of Bright's Disease ; the kidney sent me was in an exactly similar state. But what was of far more importance, Mr. Sutton, one of the senior surgeons of the London Hospital, whom Gordon Brown asked to meet him and another practitioner in consultation, and who was one of the greatest authorities living on the kidney and its diseases, said he would pledge his reputation that the kidney submitted to them had been put in spirits within a few hours of its removal from the body-thus effectually disposing of all hoaxes in connection with it. The body of anyone done to death by violence is not taken direct to the dissecting-room, but must await an inquest, never held before the following day at the soonest.
Bright's disease was not an uncommon condition, though, was it? From memory both Mulshaw and Bowyer suffered from it.
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You would recognize this passage from Major Henry Smith's book.
Henry "Reliable Memoirs" Smith, you mean?
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Bright's disease was not an uncommon condition, though, was it? From memory both Mulshaw and Bowyer suffered from it.
The type that I believe Eddowes had resulted in 19,000 deaths worldwide in 2013.
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Henry "Reliable Memoirs" Smith, you mean?

I'll decipher that as a "Yes".

He was RL Stevenson's cousin and no doubt the model for Inspector Newcomen in his 1885 novella.
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