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Old 09-26-2016, 11:20 AM
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Default What mystery will be solved next in 2016?

The abduction/murder of Jacob Wetterling has been solved, Lori Ruff's real identity has been discovered, they could be closing in on Ben Needham's remains, and there's talk of the Somerton Man being identified at long last.

What other mysteries do you expect to see solved this year?
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Old 09-26-2016, 11:42 AM
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Thank you for using the phrase "Somerton Man", Harry, I was able to find a very thorough article on this case (and some odd deaths that may also be related) at Wikipedia. I think the espionage angle seems likely, but there is not enough to go on, really-- yet. I knew of the "man on the beach in Australia" case from information here, but this article is very informative.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamam_Shud_case

As for mysteries that we'd like to see solved-- what happened to Ambrose Bierce?
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2016 is almost over. There may not be enough time to solve anything complex.
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Old 09-27-2016, 03:54 AM
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Ben Needham
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Old 09-27-2016, 04:59 AM
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2016 is almost over.
What?! It's only September. Give us a break!
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Old 09-27-2016, 05:18 AM
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The identity of Pierre.
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Old 09-27-2016, 06:10 AM
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This one?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37484900
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I have heard a little about this case, but not much. Why did the judge "instruct" the jury to find the first suspect not guilty? Was the case against him so bad that they that instead of declaring a mistrial?
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Old 09-27-2016, 09:14 AM
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To be honest PCDunn I'd not heard of this case before I saw the article (mind you I'd not heard of some of Harry D's ones either) but according to this article;

http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/pr...ost/index.html

"A 33-year-old local labourer called Ian Bernard Spencer was eventually named during the inquest as Elsie’s killer, the coroner using legal powers that have since been abolished. However, when the case reached criminal court it was immediately thrown out for a lack of evidence."
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I have heard a little about this case, but not much. Why did the judge "instruct" the jury to find the first suspect not guilty? Was the case against him so bad that they that instead of declaring a mistrial?
Terrible story, actually. The man who was accused was a witness at her inquest. Back then an inquest could actually accuse a person of murder and recommend them for trial, which is what happened...from what I gather, this was purely down to a few witnesses thinking that they might have seen him in the area that the murder took place. Witnesses who gave him an alibi (and there were quite a few, again from memory), were never called. The judge threw it out because there was literally not a shred of evidence against the man. I think a magistrates court had already found that there was no case to answer, but I have no idea why the whole farce carried on.

IIRC correctly, even Elsie's mother gave a statement to the press after the (non) trial, saying that she was relieved that the whole ordeal was over for him, because not even her family thought that he was guilty of anything.

There have been a few mad conspiracy theories about this case over the years, and the man who was accused was dogged by it for his whole life. I believe that he has dementia now, or possibly had a stroke.

The man who has been arrested for Elsie's murder is a child killer of such notoriety that he has been in secure mental health accommodation since the 70's. If he was responsible, I'd like to think that he will just admit it and let her brother and sister put it behind them. He's in his 80's, he's never getting out...hopefully they will be able to close the chapter on this now.
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