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Old 05-09-2014, 09:38 AM
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I assume you have the same man responsible for the early Torso Killings of 1873-74 and 1884 as well as the 1887-89 Torso Killings?

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If he has, then that man would ideally have been born somewhere around 1849 ...

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Old 05-09-2014, 10:53 AM
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That would be very similar to the LISK's MO. The dismembering starts around 1996 which is about 10 to 15 years before the AC and Gilgo
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Old 05-09-2014, 10:56 AM
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If he has, then that man would ideally have been born somewhere around 1849 ...

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Which makes the Ripper about 40 at the time of the Ripper murders which seems pretty accurate. Dismembering seems more likely with a serial killers early victims because he's not as confident and he may not have developed a way of hunting victims that he cannot be connected to yet
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I suggest that soon after Mary Jane Kelly's murder the Ripper was incarcerated for another crime or died in some circumstance possibly both. That would explain why he stopped after Mary Jane Kelly.

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But i'd say the pinchin st torso is one of the more Ripperesque
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Old 05-09-2014, 11:38 AM
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But i'd say the pinchin st torso is one of the more Ripperesque
So what are you thinking of, especially; the bodily damages or the geographical disposal site?

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Old 05-09-2014, 11:52 AM
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Location and Jack seemed to thrive on getting away with the murders under the nose of the police. dumping under new scotland yard seems like something he might do
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Location and Jack seemed to thrive on getting away with the murders under the nose of the police. dumping under new scotland yard seems like something he might do
Perhaps so - but the Scotland Yard torso and the Pinchin Street torso were not one and the same. And as I undertood things, you thought that the Pinchin Street torso was the most "Ripperresque"...?

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Location and Jack seemed to thrive on getting away with the murders under the nose of the police. dumping under new scotland yard seems like something he might do
Hi Rocky,
That's the One Big Thing that keeps me wondering if the Ripper/Torso Murderer could possibly be one and the same.....dumping that body under new Scotland Yard just screams RIPPER! to me....a big BIG joke on the police.
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G'day Brenda

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.....dumping that body under new Scotland Yard just screams RIPPER! to me....a big BIG joke on the police.
What jokes on the police do you credit Jack with?
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Old 05-09-2014, 02:36 PM
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Ripper suspect Wentworth Bellsmith was born in 1849 and interestingly enough was in London in 1873. Also Bellsmith left England in 1891 moving to New York.
Which puts him around at the right time for all the Torso Murders. I'm not saying he was the Torso Killer just that I consider him a suspect for the Torso Murders.

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