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Old 04-25-2015, 12:34 PM
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Default The Ripper Diary: Old Hoax Theories

One third of those polled believe the Diary to be an old hoax. That position seems to be based on initial acceptance of the popular conclusion that the Diary is a hoax and then agreeing with the science that indicates it is an old document.

For the sake of further Diary discussion, let's agree that it is an old hoax.

So who forged it? Why did he frame James?

Where did it come from? How did it get in Michael Barrett's hands?

Are we looking at one forger or a nest of forgers?

Any and all theories are welcome.
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One third of those polled believe the Diary to be an old hoax. That position seems to be based on initial acceptance of the popular conclusion that the Diary is a hoax and then agreeing with the science that indicates it is an old document.

For the sake of further Diary discussion, let's agree that it is an old hoax.

So who forged it? Why did he frame James?

Where did it come from? How did it get in Michael Barrett's hands?

Are we looking at one forger or a nest of forgers?

Any and all theories are welcome.
Having met Mr Barrett quite a few times over the years I would say that he is no criminal mastermind and no body in their right mind would involve him in any sort of scam I think I know how he came to come into possession of the diary and I think it was by pure chance.As for who wrote it I think it was a cheap attempt at the time of Florences trial to cash in when she was hung as she wasn't hung it was forgotten about .
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I think that it's possible that someone forged the Diary in an misguided attempt to "help" Florence during her trial.
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I think that it's possible that someone forged the Diary in an misguided attempt to "help" Florence during her trial.
Seems plausible
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What if [and I am not myself persuaded] someone was planning a book at about the time(s) James and Florrie were big news.
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When specifically?
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If it's me your askng I have no idea, but perhaps at the time of or around Florries Trial or her release, they seem the most likely times, if we accept it is an old hoax, but that doesn't rule out it being some other time.
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If it's me your askng I have no idea, but perhaps at the time of or around Florries Trial or her release, they seem the most likely times, if we accept it is an old hoax, but that doesn't rule out it being some other time.
I agree I think it is linked to Mrs Maybricks trial .
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If it's me your askng I have no idea, but perhaps at the time of or around Florries Trial or her release, they seem the most likely times, if we accept it is an old hoax, but that doesn't rule out it being some other time.
I think its just fascinating listening to opinions, thus why I asked. I enjoy thinking about the case etc.
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I'm also fascinated listening to opinions. Sometimes I think I'm more interested in the people interested and what they have to say than in the case itself.

My best conjecture is that the old hoaxer would have to be Forbes Winslow, or someone like him, who was connected to the Ripper hunt and the Maybrick case.
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