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Old 10-09-2018, 06:46 PM
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The crime scene and circumstances:

- A cul-de-sac
- Victim in her forties
-Found by a policeman that passed the spot nearly 15 minutes earlier
- Victim was found in a pool of blood
- It rained that night
- A furniture maker named Harry Harris may have been yards east of the murder when it was committed.
- The policeman immediatley found a witness who followed him back to the victim.
- The nightwatchman of a business nearby heard no sound.
- A person with an open window overlooking the crime scene heard nothing.
- The victim used a last name alias of “Kelly” on occasion.
- The victim hailed from a country town outside of London.
- The cul-de-sac had only three main entrances from any major road.
- The murder was and still is un-solved.

What crime scene is similar to this one? Sounds stupid, I know. I found it rather interesting.
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The crime scene and circumstances:

- A cul-de-sac
- Victim in her forties
-Found by a policeman that passed the spot nearly 15 minutes earlier
- Victim was found in a pool of blood
- It rained that night
- A furniture maker named Harry Harris may have been yards east of the murder when it was committed.
- The policeman immediatley found a witness who followed him back to the victim.
- The nightwatchman of a business nearby heard no sound.
- A person with an open window overlooking the crime scene heard nothing.
- The victim used a last name alias of “Kelly” on occasion.
- The victim hailed from a country town outside of London.
- The cul-de-sac had only three main entrances from any major road.
- The murder was and still is un-solved.

What crime scene is similar to this one? Sounds stupid, I know. I found it rather interesting.
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Hi Jerry
please expound!
Mitre Square and Castle Alley...?

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Can a cul-de-sac have three entrances? I thought they only had one by definition.
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Can a cul-de-sac have three entrances? I thought they only had one by definition.
That's what I thought, Gareth. Otherwise, I'm assuming it is Mitre Square and Castle Alley.
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That's what I thought, Gareth. Otherwise, I'm assuming it is Mitre Square and Castle Alley.
I suppose one could also question whether Wolverhampton in particular was a 'country town'.
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I suppose one could also question whether Wolverhampton in particular was a 'country town'.
We could add that both victims had been in Wandsworth prison on more than one occasion.
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I suppose one could also question whether Wolverhampton in particular was a 'country town'.
Even if it were, Eddowes and Clay Pipe Alice weren't the only non-native East Enders to be killed, nor the only ones who died in a pool of blood, or on a rainy night, so we can't read too much into those parallels.
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The murder described above are details from Alice McKenzie. I’ve mentioned this before but here is another similarity between the two murders (McKenzie/Eddowes). Alice’s body was found at the doorstep of David King and Sons. Eddowes’ body was found at the gate leading to a property formerly owned by David King and Sons.
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Eddowes’ body was found at the gate leading to a property formerly owned by David King and Sons.
If only it was King David, eh
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