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Just something else regarding the Eddowes murder that I thought about some years back, if the GSG was written by the ripper, and the line referring to " blamed for nothing"
Well this is what she said was her name when originally taken in to Bishopsgate Police Station.....only the Police officers on duty would have known that.

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That's an interesting suggestion spyglass, and only they would know her release time. If she had arranged a meeting with someone, for example, then her incarceration and the unknown time of release would have put a big kink in her plans. Unless either she was released in time to make that meeting, or that the person waiting was informed about her whereabouts and delay.

What if she was released so that the police could follow her, where she went and who she was to meet, and maybe cordon off that area to ensure that this person couldn't evade them when leaving. The closest people to the actual scene of the crime at the time it occurred were all current or ex police. Pearce, Morris, Harvey, Watkins, Marriott, Halse, Outram...and the crime seems to have occurred when one officer should have been visually checking that court from one point and another entering the court from another.
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The closest people to the actual scene of the crime at the time it occurred were all current or ex police. Pearce, Morris, Harvey, Watkins, Marriott, Halse, Outram...and the crime seems to have occurred when one officer should have been visually checking that court from one point and another entering the court from another.
This looks to me like a circular argument. The closest people to the scene of the crime were only "all" police officers if an assumption is made that the killer was one of them.
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This looks to me like a circular argument. The closest people to the scene of the crime were only "all" police officers if an assumption is made that the killer was one of them.
I'm actually of the belief that the proximity of all those policemen, perhaps excluding Morris, had more to do with creating a net. I didn't intend to infer that one of them must have been the murderer at all. I did intend to infer that they expected an attack on Kate that night, which might be a result of intelligence that she intended to name a killer she believed did the prior murders. Something that may or may not have been true, she may have thought of someone who was guilty of crimes but not the ones she imagined.

Maybe someone Irish, which makes Mitre Square an interesting choice...I believe it was at one time used by self rule factions?
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I'm actually of the belief that the proximity of all those policemen, perhaps excluding Morris, had more to do with creating a net. I didn't intend to infer that one of them must have been the murderer at all. I did intend to infer that they expected an attack on Kate that night, which might be a result of intelligence that she intended to name a killer she believed did the prior murders. Something that may or may not have been true, she may have thought of someone who was guilty of crimes but not the ones she imagined.

Maybe someone Irish, which makes Mitre Square an interesting choice...I believe it was at one time used by self rule factions?
I've clearly mistaken your meaning then, Michael. Apologies.

If she intended to name a killer though, why would she not do it before leaving the police station? She'd been out of London hopping for a while, so perhaps may have simply had knowledge that the man referred to in the press as Leather Apron was John Pizer?
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