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    FBI: Suspect Bragged About Ties To ‘Terrorist Organization

    FBI Special Agent In Charge Ron Hopper says that the individual who conducted the terrorist attack on the Orlando night club bragged about


    ISIS celebrate Orlando Pulse Club shooting which left 20 people dead as police suspect Islamic extremists of attack
    A lone gunman stormed into Florida gay club at about 2am local time and began shooting at the crowd, killing about 20 people and injuring 42
    Last edited by Beowulf; 06-12-2016, 10:02 AM.

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    • #3
      Taking place in the week of Stonewall and Gay Pride celebrations all over the world, terrible news. Reports seem to indicate use of a machine assault rifle. All other gun debate aside, multi-discharge-rounds-per-second assault weapons need removed from the market. Sympathies to all concerned.

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      • #4
        Paris, strictest gun control laws and yet hundreds dead.

        Islamic terrorists need to be removed from the market.

        Orlando is a gun free zone.
        Last edited by Beowulf; 06-12-2016, 11:21 AM.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Beowulf View Post
          Paris, strictest gun control laws and yet hundreds dead.

          Islamic terrorists need to be removed from the market.

          Orlando is a gun free zone.
          Yes, anyone who tries to blame this on guns is basically an enemy collaborator.
          This my opinion and to the best of my knowledge, that is, if I'm not joking.

          Stan Reid

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          • #6
            Originally posted by sdreid View Post
            Yes, anyone who tries to blame this on guns is basically an enemy collaborator.
            Well said.
            - Ginger

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            • #7
              I well up every time this pops up on my news alerts.

              Fifty people expected to come home after having a great night, socialising, dancing, listening to music. It hurts my heart that they can't now. Senseless and awful.

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              • #8
                On September 11, 2001 I was on a subway car going downtown in Manhattan, when we were stopped within blocks of the World Trade Center. We were informed of the plane crashes into the two towers. The train did not move for about twenty minutes and then moved slowly out towards Brooklyn, where I was working. Opposite me on the bench was a woman who said, "What do you expect - they always target major cities!! I'm glad we're moving out of New York City to Orlando." My reaction was to say to her, "Why do you think they can't target Orlando?!" She didn't answer. She got an extension to my question today - wonder what she is thinking of right now?

                Jeff

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                • #9
                  What can one say? Speechless.

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                  • #10
                    Up until today Australia had the record for the worlds worst mass shooting.

                    After it Johnny Howard grew a set and banned automatic weapons and initiated a gun buy back, nothing close ever since.

                    Yes guns don't kill people, people do, but if you have to reload between each shot at least the targets get a suckers break to either seek cover or overpower the gunman.

                    Seems pretty simple to me.

                    Now I have been a keen shooter, but never understood why civilians need automatic or even semi automatic weapons.
                    G U T

                    There are two ways to be fooled, one is to believe what isn't true, the other is to refuse to believe that which is true.

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                    • #11
                      Omar Mateen was an American citizen of Afghan descent, and a Muslim. He worked as a security guard, was licensed to carry a gun everywhere, and bought all of the weapons used in the club attack legally at local gun shops.

                      His ex-wife is now living in Colorado, having fled him after he changed from being a normal person into a radicalized and violent man.

                      A witness said the shooting began after a large pick-up truck or SUV rammed through the back wall of the club.

                      ISIS has claimed credit for the attack.

                      I feel sick and sad.
                      Last edited by Pcdunn; 06-12-2016, 10:38 PM. Reason: Correcting spelling of name
                      Pat D. https://forum.casebook.org/core/imag...rt/reading.gif
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                      • #12
                        Yes. I've been sad all day, and anxious, and angry.

                        This text from one of the victims to his mother particularly saddened me. He did not make it through. My god, the poor woman, the poor guy, the poor frightened people in the club and there is no sense of these attacks being prevented in the future. They call for immediate strong action of which there is no such action forthcoming.

                        Mina Justice said she was outside the club trying to contact her son Eddie, 30, after a gunman opened fire inside a Florida nightclub early Sunday. The last text she received said: 'He's in here with us.'
                        Last edited by Beowulf; 06-12-2016, 10:48 PM.

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                        • #13
                          I don't agree with the gun laws but, in this case, I don't think a law would have stopped this man doing what he did. We have strict gun laws in the UK and yet we have had outrages such as Hungerford and Dunblane. If a person is determined enough, or sick enough, they will commit terrible acts such as this.

                          My heart goes out to the dead, the injured, their families and all those who witnessed this or were involved in dealing with the aftermath.

                          The world seems like a very sad and sick place right now. When I was young, I thought I was working to create a better world with social justice, tolerance and equality. I see now just how impossible that is.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Limehouse View Post
                            I don't agree with the gun laws but, in this case, I don't think a law would have stopped this man doing what he did. We have strict gun laws in the UK and yet we have had outrages such as Hungerford and Dunblane. If a person is determined enough, or sick enough, they will commit terrible acts such as this.

                            My heart goes out to the dead, the injured, their families and all those who witnessed this or were involved in dealing with the aftermath.

                            The world seems like a very sad and sick place right now. When I was young, I thought I was working to create a better world with social justice, tolerance and equality. I see now just how impossible that is.
                            As much as what happened in Orlando saddens me, I'll take the small leaps that we have made as a society.

                            For those who might not have heard of it...on June 4th 1973, another massacre took place at a gay club in New Orleans, called the UpStairs Lounge. 32 people died, either of smoke inhalation or the effects of the fire.

                            It was so taboo to be gay at that point that bodies went unclaimed, ministers were rebuked by their churches for holding memorials and relatives stole out of side and back entrances to avoid being associated with their dead relative.

                            We're a million miles from perfect, but there have been improvements. It's just so hard when someone does something like this, because it all feels futile.

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                            • #15
                              Funny isn't it, how liberals always rush out to defend Islam after events like this. Bleeding heart liberals defending a misogynistic, homophobic, regressive ideology. Work that one out.

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