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Not according to Chris Scott's research they weren't GUT. His article on the identification of Sarah Lewis appeared in Ripperologist 133.
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Not according to Chris Scott's research they weren't GUT. His article on the identification of Sarah Lewis appeared in Ripperologist 133.
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Not according to Chris Scott's research they weren't GUT. His article on the identification of Sarah Lewis appeared in Ripperologist 133.
I'm probably in a minority of one here, Debs, but I don't find Chris's Sarah Lewis identification particularly persuasive. Familial oral traditions are never the best sources of evidence in my view, and neither does the photograph of Chris's Sarah exhibit the 'negress' features attributed to the Sarah Lewis upon her attendance of the Kelly inquest.
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I'm probably in a minority of one here, Debs, but I don't find Chris's Sarah Lewis identification particularly persuasive. Familial oral traditions are never the best sources of evidence in my view, and neither does the photograph of Chris's Sarah exhibit the 'negress' features attributed to the Sarah Lewis upon her attendance of the Kelly inquest.
I know exactly what you mean, Gary. I can't say that I am totally convinced but felt that people should get the opportunity to read it and decide for themselves.
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I believe that the witnesses on the marriage were probably Joseph's sister and brother-in-law - there's a possible marriage Q3 1898 Whitechapel for Edward Wilson/Sarah Gothimmer.

There is a Sarah Jane Gotheimer with a Catherine Gotheimer in Lisbon Street 1930 -2. Looks like mother and daughter.
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Maurice Lewis is a bit of an oddity isn't he? I've never been able to find any Maurice Lewis in Spitalfields, but there are at least three tailors in the general area named 'Morris Lewis,' but all 3 are middle-aged Russian/Polish emigrants and family men.

Why would a man of that sort be pitching pennies (and evidently drinking) on a Friday morning? And he claimed he had known Kelly for 5 years.
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Maybe Maurice Lewis was actually Maurice Ellis. 1881 Census:


Maurice Ellis
Age: 22
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1859
Relationship to Head: Son
Father: Lepman Ellis
Mother: Thresa Ellis
Where born:Aldgate, Middlesex, England
Street address: 13 Hutchinsons Avenue
Occupation: Tailor

Aged 29 in 1888; perhaps a little more likely to be drinking and tossing coins. There are very few men named Maurice living in London in 1881, so unless they got the name wrong, this guy is pretty much your only choice, and the occupation is correct. Don't be excited by his street address.
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The 1891 Census records a Morris Lewis, 50, a tailor, living in Spelman Street [runs parallel with Brick Lane].
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