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But, as has been discussed before, we don't know in what tone the 'No' was uttered. It may have been a very frightened 'No!' as Annie saw something in his eyes as he leaned towards her. Or it could have been 'No' in the course of a normal conversation.

Jack could have been asking Annie if she had change for sixpence, for all we know! It's not known whether the 'No' was the last word Annie uttered. It's a pity Cadosch didn't stay in the yard because he might have heard something useful. Nor do we really know how many minutes Cadosch went inside for. Some people are terrible at estimating time!
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But, as has been discussed before, we don't know in what tone the 'No' was uttered. It may have been a very frightened 'No!' as Annie saw something in his eyes as he leaned towards her. Or it could have been 'No' in the course of a normal conversation.

Jack could have been asking Annie if she had change for sixpence, for all we know! It's not known whether the 'No' was the last word Annie uttered. It's a pity Cadosch didn't stay in the yard because he might have heard something useful. Nor do we really know how many minutes Cadosch went inside for. Some people are terrible at estimating time!
I think that the "no" isn't a smoking gun as you say, but the "no" plus the thud against the fence may well be. Based on the time that it was heard its almost incomprehensible that we have someone coming in with Annie after that time.....the examination of Annie led to a conclusion that the killer needed to spend sometime performing those mutilations and excisions, and that she was probably killed before Cadosche entered the yard.

Since we have an opened body on a cool morning, that TOD estimate may have been off...hell, even Cadosche may have been off by a few minutes, but its almost a certainty that Cadosche heard Annie and her killer. At what stage the murder was at seems pretty clear too..."no", then thud.

All Cadosche really does is make it clear that Mrs Long didn't see Annie at all.
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I continue to believe that either Long or Cadosch being mistaken about the time by a few minutes is a simpler explanation than having to account for a second couple.
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