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Old 06-21-2016, 11:38 AM
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Default Accurate 13 Miller's Court Sketch

Of the few sketches of Mary Kelly's room that appeared in the newspapers at the time, they all vary widely in their dimensions and room furnishings. Is there any consensus on which sketch, if any, is the most accurate? Or, has anyone seen a modern sketch or rendering of the room that is based on the known facts? I'm looking for the best source to visually recreate the room as closely as possible.
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Old 06-21-2016, 12:24 PM
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I don,t believe there is a consensus, darkwood.

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Old 06-21-2016, 01:26 PM
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Check out this thread:

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=9308

It's long, but worth a read through. Some great 3D renditions by poster richardh, plus drawings by others.
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Gray Darkwood, welcome to casebook.

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Old 06-21-2016, 01:41 PM
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And here's another, much shorter thread on Miller's Court:

http://forum.casebook.org/showthread.php?t=9343

Richardh did some 3D renderings where Miller's Court was located from pictures that were taken when the area was being demolished.

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If you can stand to look at the photograph of Mary's body on the bed, it will give you a little bit of an idea as to just how small, dingy, and dirty her room was.

The newspaper sketches are probably pretty good for the exterior of Miller's Court, especially those based on photos, but I have seen one sketch of Mary's supposed bedroom which made it seem far too spacious, plus had supplied soft bedding and pillows for the bed! The artist apparently made it up completely.
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Dark, dirty and dingy indeed! It must have been truly awful to live in such conditions.
On both the linked threads above there was such a lot of debate, argument, discussion about where everything was in Miller's Court and in Mary's room, length, width etc. But still no consensus!
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http://www.casebook.org/images/simonwood/image002.jpg

About the size of a small bedroom.
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Marys room was originally the Salon for #26, and the famed "partition wall" was erected to section it off from the house and add it to the courtyard. Primary access Im sure is the reason for the re-categorization.

The room is said to have been approximately 10 x 10, with the fireplace, the old hearth for the salon, opposite the access door to the courtyard. It was to be sure small and dingy, only getting sunlight later in the day. A far cry from the courtesan lifestyle when she was a brothel resident.
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Marys room was originally the Salon for #26, and the famed "partition wall" was erected to section it off from the house and add it to the courtyard. Primary access Im sure is the reason for the re-categorization.

The room is said to have been approximately 10 x 10, with the fireplace, the old hearth for the salon, opposite the access door to the courtyard. It was to be sure small and dingy, only getting sunlight later in the day. A far cry from the courtesan lifestyle when she was a brothel resident.
Salon? Hahahahahaha, you crack me up Michael.
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