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Sorry, my message got repeated.
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Being tired of being married is a common thing whether there is evidence that can be pointed to or not. Also as a contributing factor, if Julia was so much older and William just found out, he could have been angered that she had cheated him out of family.
If there is strong circumstantial evidence that Wallace was most likely the killer, then I agree that marriage is a good a motive as any to murder. BUT the evidence fits equally well other scenarios other than Wallace acting alone.

Or put another way, many millions of spouses throughout history could be described "as tired" but do not become calculating murderers.

Personally, I am sceptical that it tales 16 years of MARRIAGE to discover that your spouse is 17 YEARS older than you. Nevertheless, the age difference might have been an aggravating factor. BUT first we need to find out if the timings, facts and witness statements point more strongly to Wallace than anyone else.
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If the address didn't exist,how would Wallace know where to start looking,so why did he take a certain direction on leaving home?
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If the address didn't exist,how would Wallace know where to start looking,so why did he take a certain direction on leaving home?
Although Menlove Gardens East (per the phone message) didn't exist, Menlove Gardens North and Menlove Gardens West did exist, which would have given Wallace a starting-point. One thing that puzzles me, though, is that as a long-term resident of Liverpool, and also an insurance collector who travelled his rounds via public transport and on foot, he ought to have had a very good knowledge of the locality and its streets, and perhaps should have known that the street named in the phone call didn't exist. This to me is one little fly in the ointment with regard to his innocence.

Is it true, does anyone know, that after his acquittal Wallace received anonymous letters accusing him of being guilty all along?

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One thing that puzzles me, though, is that as a long-term resident of Liverpool, and also an insurance collector who travelled his rounds via public transport and on foot, he ought to have had a very good knowledge of the locality and its streets, and perhaps should have known that the street named in the phone call didn't exist. This to me is one little fly in the ointment with regard to his innocence.Graham
I agree - Wallace's behaviour on the night of the murder IS suspicious, although it is far from a conclusive indicator of guilt. It has to be balanced against other evidence, e.g. timings and witness statements.
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The Wallace Case is #9 on the Top 1000+ Classic (over 20 years old) Unsolved Murder list that I'm working on (I'm up #735 at present). Ahead in order are Cleveland Torso, JtR, Texarkana Phantom, Black Dahlia, Jack the Stripper, Original Night Stalker, Boston Strangler and New Orleans Axeman. Zodiac rounds out the top 10. #735 is the Alicia Showalter Reynolds murder from 1996 so even at 735 there's still a high level of intrigue.
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The Wallace Case is #9 on the Top 1000+ Classic (over 20 years old) Unsolved Murder list that I'm working on (I'm up #735 at present). Ahead in order are Cleveland Torso, JtR, Texarkana Phantom, Black Dahlia, Jack the Stripper, Original Night Stalker, Boston Strangler and New Orleans Axeman. Zodiac rounds out the top 10. #735 is the Alicia Showalter Reynolds murder from 1996 so even at 735 there's still a high level of intrigue.
Stan, are you ever going to publish the entire list?

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The Wallace Case is #9 on the Top 1000+ Classic (over 20 years old) Unsolved Murder list that I'm working on (I'm up #735 at present). Ahead in order are Cleveland Torso, JtR, Texarkana Phantom, Black Dahlia, Jack the Stripper, Original Night Stalker, Boston Strangler and New Orleans Axeman. Zodiac rounds out the top 10. #735 is the Alicia Showalter Reynolds murder from 1996 so even at 735 there's still a high level of intrigue.
This list sounds fascinating. Is it available to peruse? Clearly, Wallace is (for you) the #1 British unsolved case. I note that you do not include two older US cases in your Top Ten: Lizzie Borden and Mary Rogers.
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I'm putting the list up over on Websleuths Jeff and it won't probably be done for a few years yetI'd like to get it up to at least 1035 just to have some spares.

The Border murders are #17 and Rogers is #64. Yes, Wallace is my #1 British murder of a single individual.
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Graham,
Yes,but we are led to believe that Wallace started out believing that Menlove Gardens East did exist,but he didn't know where,and that in the intervening 24 hours from receiving the message,he didn't attempt to find out.Had he done so,and using the resources available,it would have become apparent,that either Menlove Gardens East didn't exist,or that the phone message had been wrongly interpreted.My opinion is that he did know,he did make the phone call,he knew Menlove Gardens East did not exist but the other two Menloves did.and he built an alibi around that knowledge.
As to not having time to commit the murder and clean up,I believe he had more than sufficient time.
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