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If a person were hoaxing it back in time, in 1888, they would have been able to get ahold of a proper diary, not a photo album.

Why would someone hoax it in 1888 and use a photo album, instead of a regular diary?
And if we hypothesize the diary's genuine, why on earth would a wealthy, middle class Victorian merchant purchase a photo album to record his experiences rather than proper a journal?
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This is fun, it's like MST 3000 for Rippercast.
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And if we hypothesize the diary's genuine, why on earth would a wealthy, middle class Victorian merchant purchase a photo album to record his experiences rather than proper a journal?
As Michael Barrett soon discovered after coming into possession of the artifact known today as the "Maybrick Diary," when he ordered an authentic Victorian diary for comparison, such a diary is too small, and a larger format book was needed to tell the story. Seen below is an image of the little red Victorian diary that Mike ordered in 1992 for comparison purposes. It's held in the hand of the M/C, the late lamented Jeremy Beadle at "The Trial of James Maybrick" at the Liverpool Cricket Club in May 2007. Photograph courtesy of Tony May.

What is written in the document allegedly written by James Maybrick is not a diary despite the designation it has been given since 1993 when Shirley Harrison published The Diary of Jack the Ripper.

Rather it is the melodramatic narrative of someone riffing off the Ripper case and trying to convince us that they were the Whitechapel Murderer.

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Replying to Ally---

Paul suggests that the author/confessor might have torn out the pages of the memorial book that contained physical reminders of his happy marriage now long past.

But it was only a suggestion, and by now you've gone past that part of the show.

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Paul suggests that the author/confessor might have torn out the pages of the memorial book that contained physical reminders of his happy marriage now long past.

But it was only a sufraction, and by now you've gone past that part of the show.

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That argument is not too convincing, Jonathan, with due respect. What is written in the existing Diary covers a few months. There aren't enough pages cut/torn out from the beginning of the book to go back to those halcyon years when James and Florence Maybrick were doe-eyed lovers -- if they ever were!

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Yes it was only a thought Paul had and I believe he admits it not a very likely one. Have you heard the episode, Chris?

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As Michael Barrett soon discovered after coming into possession of the artifact known today as the "Maybrick Diary," when he ordered an authentic Victorian diary for comparison, such a diary is too small, and a larger format book was needed to tell the story. Seen below is an image of the little red Victorian diary that Mike ordered in 1992 for comparison purposes. It's held in the hand of the M/C, the late lamented Jeremy Beadle at "The Trial of James Maybrick" at the Liverpool Cricket Club in May 2007. Photograph courtesy of Tony May.

What is written in the document allegedly written by James Maybrick is not a diary despite the designation it has been given since 1993 when Shirley Harrison published The Diary of Jack the Ripper.

Rather it is the melodramatic narrative of someone riffing off the Ripper case and trying to convince us that they were the Whitechapel Murderer.

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Okay, but wouldn't a typical Victorian diary have consisted of several volumes, with perhaps more than one volume for each year? In other words, why couldn't Maybrick have simply purchased more than one diary to record his experiences?

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Okay, but wouldn't a typical Victorian diary have consisted of several volumes, with perhaps more than one volume for each year? In other words, why couldn't Maybrick have simply purchased more than one diary to record his experiences?
Mostly because Maybrick didn't write it. The thing is bogus.
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Paul suggests that the author/confessor might have torn out the pages of the memorial book that contained physical reminders of his happy marriage now long past.

But it was only a suggestion, and by now you've gone past that part of the show.

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I hadn't gotten there yet, what part of MST3000 don't you get. Also, yeah, no. That's just bunk.
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Mostly because Maybrick didn't write it. The thing is bogus.
Yes, I suppose there is that!
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