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Old 05-11-2015, 02:26 PM
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Don't you think it was extraordinary that Stride could be murdered by the Ripper moments after having an altercation with another man?
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Don't you think it was extraordinary that Stride could be murdered by the Ripper moments after having an altercation with another man?
Extraordinary - Yes
Impossible - no.
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Old 05-11-2015, 04:23 PM
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Everybody seems very positive that the woman Schwartz saw being attacked was Liz Stride. What if it wasn't? What if Schwartz was ten minutes or more out in his estimated times and BS man and the assaulted woman had gone off (hopefully in different directions) by the time Stride and Jack arrived at the club?
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Everybody seems very positive that the woman Schwartz saw being attacked was Liz Stride. What if it wasn't? What if Schwartz was ten minutes or more out in his estimated times and BS man and the assaulted woman had gone off (hopefully in different directions) by the time Stride and Jack arrived at the club?
Hi Rosella.
One small problem with that might be, Stride was seen standing opposite the club with a man at 12:35, so she was already in the vicinity.
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Stride was 'seen' that night at various nearby locations, by Best, Gardner, Marshall, Brown, Matthew Packer and PC Smith, the vast majority of whom were mistaken or lying, although Smith seems to have been observant. That still doesn't mean that the woman involved in the altercation with BS man was Stride, that Stride and client couldn't have moved away, or that Schwartz couldn't have been wrong in his timing.
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Tend to agree with Prosector's posts regarding Jack the Ripper's anatomical and medical knowledge and experience.

Also a fan of his (Prosector's) father's works,some of which I have possessed for several decades.

The French brand of licorice pastilles some people surmise were in Stride's hand were not in production at that time.

Senegalia catechu extract has been employed for thousands of years as an astringent and has other medical uses.

Surmise they were handed to Elizabeth by Jack the Ripper in Dutfield's Yard after BS man departed.

Being medication suitable for Stride's lower lip implies that they knew each other.
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Tend to agree with Prosector's posts regarding Jack the Ripper's anatomical and medical knowledge and experience.

Also a fan of his (Prosector's) father's works,some of which I have possessed for several decades.

The French brand of licorice pastilles some people surmise were in Stride's hand were not in production at that time.

Senegalia catechu extract has been employed for thousands of years as an astringent and has other medical uses.

Surmise they were handed to Elizabeth by Jack the Ripper in Dutfield's Yard after BS man departed.

Being medication suitable for Stride's lower lip implies that they knew each other.

Why?

As opposed to her having them herself.
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BTW welcome DJA
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